Cleaned Farthings

Discussion in 'World Coins' started by cplradar, Sep 21, 2021.

  1. cplradar

    cplradar Talmud Chuchum

    I picked up this 1938 Farthing a few weeks ago. I was quite happy with it


    If came back from ANACS grading as cleaned, details

    What do you think?

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  3. GH#75

    GH#75 Trying to get 8 hours of sleep in 4. . .

    Surprised it's MS, with all the fingerprints and marks on it. But I can agree with cleaned on the label. You can see the discoloring all around the details/letters. This is because when someone cleans it, the spaces between letters are harder to reach and retain the color the coin would be had it not been cleaned.
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  4. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank


    ANACS is really tough, tone it and it may pass.
  5. mrbadexample

    mrbadexample Well-Known Member

    Can I politely ask why you had this graded please? The coin is common and relatively easy to obtain in high grade for little expense. The cost of having it graded is more than the value of the coin.

    I don't get it. :confused:
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  6. cplradar

    cplradar Talmud Chuchum

    You can ask that, but I won't answer. But rest assured, I will do it again. Proably at least 20 times more because I have about that many more Wrens that I want to eventually get graded and slabbed.
  7. mrbadexample

    mrbadexample Well-Known Member

    Don't take offence, I was just curious. Not my place to tell you what to do with your $ and your goods. :)

    I have a limited budget so personally I'd rather spend the money on another coin.

    One of the things I love about coins is the tactility, which is lost the moment it is entombed. :(
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  8. cplradar

    cplradar Talmud Chuchum

    I hear, but there is an attitude that is common that unless you can turn a coin over for a profit, that it is not of value to have them graded. I send in coins becaise I enjoy it, and it protects the coin and they do conservation.
  9. cplradar

    cplradar Talmud Chuchum

    this one has similar thumb print, but is slabbed MS63
  10. john65999

    john65999 Well-Known Member

    back in the early 80's..when i started dealing in coins full time...a fingerprint wqs a death knell for a coin, making it not unc, nowadays it seems fingerprints do nopt matter at all...not even a detail grade for it..if i have any like that, i add a detail note saying "fingerprint" just what i do, anyways..
  11. cplradar

    cplradar Talmud Chuchum

    Why would a fingerprint get a detailed grade? Eventually it will tone out and touching coins are normal. These are not proof coins...and even Proofs aren't sterile.. These are 80 year old copper coins.
  12. Oldhoopster

    Oldhoopster Member of the ANA since 1982

    The oils and chemicals in the fingerprint are different from the normal environmental factors that cause toning. In some cases, the fingerprint can be etched into the surface leaving permanent damage. You can almost think of it as a type of corrosion. That's why coins with visible fingerprints, especially heavy ones, might get a details grade.
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