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<p>[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 2679046, member: 112"]Yes, easily. But it's a bit more complicated than that and your question is a good example of why one needs to understand it.</p><p><br /></p><p>In simplest terms the problem is this, when somebody says a coin has been "cleaned", what they really mean is that the coin has been harshly cleaned. Harshly cleaned is the term that should be used, the correct term, but most just shorten it to "cleaned" in casual conversation.</p><p><br /></p><p>Then, you also have to realize that there are coins that have been cleaned and coins that have been harshly cleaned. Cleaned is a good thing. Harshly cleaned is a bad thing.</p><p><br /></p><p>Cleaning causes no harm to the coin. Harsh cleaning does cause harm to the coin. That is the distinction between the two. Harsh cleaning can easily be recognized by a knowledgeable person because he can see the traces of it, the harm caused by it. Cleaning, or proper cleaning if you prefer, cannot always be recognized, other times it can be. But not because there are traces on the coin, but because a knowledgeable person can use deductive reasoning and know that the coin has been properly cleaned.</p><p><br /></p><p>Example, all coins begin toning the moment they leave the coin press, that is a given. So if you see an older coin and it has no toning on it, and there are no traces of a harsh cleaning, it's a pretty safe bet that the coin has been properly cleaned. It is also a given that 80% or more of all older coins have been properly cleaned at some point in the life of the coin. And yes, that includes all slabbed coins.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 2679046, member: 112"]Yes, easily. But it's a bit more complicated than that and your question is a good example of why one needs to understand it. In simplest terms the problem is this, when somebody says a coin has been "cleaned", what they really mean is that the coin has been harshly cleaned. Harshly cleaned is the term that should be used, the correct term, but most just shorten it to "cleaned" in casual conversation. Then, you also have to realize that there are coins that have been cleaned and coins that have been harshly cleaned. Cleaned is a good thing. Harshly cleaned is a bad thing. Cleaning causes no harm to the coin. Harsh cleaning does cause harm to the coin. That is the distinction between the two. Harsh cleaning can easily be recognized by a knowledgeable person because he can see the traces of it, the harm caused by it. Cleaning, or proper cleaning if you prefer, cannot always be recognized, other times it can be. But not because there are traces on the coin, but because a knowledgeable person can use deductive reasoning and know that the coin has been properly cleaned. Example, all coins begin toning the moment they leave the coin press, that is a given. So if you see an older coin and it has no toning on it, and there are no traces of a harsh cleaning, it's a pretty safe bet that the coin has been properly cleaned. It is also a given that 80% or more of all older coins have been properly cleaned at some point in the life of the coin. And yes, that includes all slabbed coins.[/QUOTE]
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