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<p>[QUOTE="Conder101, post: 928515, member: 66"]This really isn't possible. The grader is simply looking at the coin and to him on that day and time he feels the coin has been cleaned. He has no idea who did it, he may have no idea how or what was done to it, he has no idea when or why it was done. To put any such disclaimer such as "subject coin could have been simply rinsed at the mint" would be frankly dishonest since any other location could equally as well take the place of "at the mint". All you can really say is that something has been done to this coin at some time.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>So if a grader looks at a coin and he thinks it has been cleaned what do you want him to do? Go ahead and grade it as a problem free coin so as to not hurt the submitters chance of profitably selling it to someone else? Great we preserved his profit, now what about the collector who later buys that cleaned coin as a problem free piece? Oh he has the PCGS guarantee! So if a grader thinks a coin is cleaned, the grader should grade it as problem free so the submitter makes money and then PCGS can pay off later for the improper grading. I don't think so.</p><p><br /></p><p>Yes some coins that have NOT been cleaned get slabbed as cleaned, but the grader HAS to call them as he sees them at the time. He has absolutely no knowledge of the history of the coin, all he knows is how the coin looks to him, and he calls it as he sees it.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Conder101, post: 928515, member: 66"]This really isn't possible. The grader is simply looking at the coin and to him on that day and time he feels the coin has been cleaned. He has no idea who did it, he may have no idea how or what was done to it, he has no idea when or why it was done. To put any such disclaimer such as "subject coin could have been simply rinsed at the mint" would be frankly dishonest since any other location could equally as well take the place of "at the mint". All you can really say is that something has been done to this coin at some time. So if a grader looks at a coin and he thinks it has been cleaned what do you want him to do? Go ahead and grade it as a problem free coin so as to not hurt the submitters chance of profitably selling it to someone else? Great we preserved his profit, now what about the collector who later buys that cleaned coin as a problem free piece? Oh he has the PCGS guarantee! So if a grader thinks a coin is cleaned, the grader should grade it as problem free so the submitter makes money and then PCGS can pay off later for the improper grading. I don't think so. Yes some coins that have NOT been cleaned get slabbed as cleaned, but the grader HAS to call them as he sees them at the time. He has absolutely no knowledge of the history of the coin, all he knows is how the coin looks to him, and he calls it as he sees it.[/QUOTE]
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