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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;GDJMSP, post: 3629289, member: 112&quot;]Chip there have been more discussions on this subject than you could ever want to count. And everybody has their own opinions. But your basic question - </p><p><br /></p><p><i>&quot;So my question is : DOES IT REALLY MAKE A DIFFERENCE? Does somebody pay more for a coin that is cruddy, muddy, and mostly unseen versus a coin where you can easily see the beauty and the flaws in it?&quot;</i></p><p><br /></p><p>Some do pay more, but most don&#039;t. </p><p><br /></p><p>And the determining factor for that is based on one&#039;s personal philosophy. Some prize what they refer to as originality. They want coins that in their opinion have never been messed with in any way. That&#039;s how they define originality. If the coins has ordinary dirt and grime on it - they wanna see it there. If the coin is toned, heavily or only mildly so, they wanna see it there.</p><p><br /></p><p>But yet others define originality as the coin looking as close as it can to the way it looked when it was minted. If the coin has ordinary dirt and grime on it, they want it gone. If the coin is toned, heavily or lightly, they want it gone. </p><p><br /></p><p>And then there&#039;s those who go both ways. If a coin is what they think is attractively toned, they like it that way. If a coins some dirt and grime, they like that way. If the coin looks basically like the day it was minted, they like it that way. And their collections are a mix of all because they buy their coins based on the individual coin itself rather than any particular characteristic. </p><p><br /></p><p>But here&#039;s the thing Chip, what all three of those groups forget is that fully 80% of or more of all older coins, (and I&#039;ll define older as being minted before 1965), have been cleaned at one time or another. And yes that includes all of those in TPG slabs, and raw ! </p><p><br /></p><p>So when somebody says they don&#039;t want any cleaned coins,&nbsp; absolutely won&#039;t buy any cleaned coins, I can pretty much guarantee you that the vast majority of the coins in their collections have been cleaned - even those they define as being original. They&#039;re buying cleaned coins whether they know it or not.</p><p><br /></p><p>And of course what&#039;s already been talked about has very important bearing here - the difference between properly cleaned, and what has been harshly cleaned. When I say cleaned, what I&#039;m saying is properly cleaned. 80% or more of all older coins have been properly cleaned. Whether somebody thinks they&#039;re original or not - they have been cleaned. And yes, dipping coins is just one way that coins are cleaned. Rinsing them in distilled water is cleaning, rinsing them acetone or xylene is cleaning. </p><p><br /></p><p>So you tell me Chip, does it make a difference ?[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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