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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Owle, post: 2248810, member: 22004&quot;]You like to use really twisted logic to try to make your &quot;case&quot; and the BS is utterly egregious and no way that raw coin sellers could operate on ebay or any other medium where customers will destroy your account if you overgrade and misrepresent their material; I repeat they will get to the bottom of the misrepresentation, dishonesty or incompetent grading and use the tools at their disposal to fight back as well they should.&nbsp; And those who bully customers who question these dealers who misrepresent what they are selling would not survive in any other commercial medium without the bullying.&nbsp; </p><p><br /></p><p><b>“When (if) you represent that a particular coin is a particular numerical grade, you have made an express warranty that the coin is, in fact, the grade you represented it to be, and if it isn’t, you can be held liable for damages.” <a href="http://forums.collectors.com/messageview.cfm?catid=26&amp;threadid=295472&amp;STARTPAGE=2" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://forums.collectors.com/messageview.cfm?catid=26&amp;threadid=295472&amp;STARTPAGE=2" rel="nofollow">http://forums.collectors.com/messageview.cfm?catid=26&amp;threadid=295472&amp;STARTPAGE=2</a></b></p><p><b><br /></b></p><p><b>That is the relevant law here and it is crystal clear.&nbsp; I spoke with a long term numismatist yesterday who has been a professional witness in court for the US attorney, and he said of course the raw coin dealers know what they are doing in misrepresentation, it is not &quot;unknowing&quot; which might be a legal defense.&nbsp; So the law would see it as fraud.&nbsp; And yes the cases should go to court and other collectors who have been ripped off should take the cases first to the state AG/consumers affairs department and directly to court either small claims or the other ones if the money lost justifies it.&nbsp; </b>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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