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<p>[QUOTE="TypeCoin971793, post: 2826827, member: 78244"]That theory is stupid. An MS-64 with a die clash is the same grade as an MS-64 without a clash. Because <i>you</i> don't like the clash does not change the grade. The same goes with strike, unless you get into the MS-66+ range (though I have seen some MS-67 coins with pretty crappy strikes). The value can be affected by the quality of the strike, but the grade stays the same. Die clashing almost never affects the value, and sometimes increases it if it is a diagnostic for a rare variety/die state. If a variety is common with a die clash, then it would be more valuable without the clash as it would be scarcer. <i>THAT DOES NOT AFFECT THE GRADE!</i></p><p><br /></p><p>Example: <a href="http://www.coinworld.com/news/us-coins/2017/07/one-of-two-known-1806-0-108-half-dollars.all.html" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.coinworld.com/news/us-coins/2017/07/one-of-two-known-1806-0-108-half-dollars.all.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.coinworld.com/news/us-coins/2017/07/one-of-two-known-1806-0-108-half-dollars.all.html</a></p><p><br /></p><p>The die state with the large CUD is extremely rare, but by your definition, the imperfect die should make it worth less. In fact, the opposite is true. Sure, you can say the relative value should be reflected in the grade. But then the VG-08 (net graded down due to scratches that should have detailed it) should be raised to MS-64/65 to cover the $60000-80000 value ascribed to this coin. See the flaw in your logic here?</p><p><br /></p><p>An imperfection of the dies does not change the grade. An imperfection in strike, planchet preparation, etc. can but usually does not for pre-1878 coins.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="TypeCoin971793, post: 2826827, member: 78244"]That theory is stupid. An MS-64 with a die clash is the same grade as an MS-64 without a clash. Because [I]you[/I] don't like the clash does not change the grade. The same goes with strike, unless you get into the MS-66+ range (though I have seen some MS-67 coins with pretty crappy strikes). The value can be affected by the quality of the strike, but the grade stays the same. Die clashing almost never affects the value, and sometimes increases it if it is a diagnostic for a rare variety/die state. If a variety is common with a die clash, then it would be more valuable without the clash as it would be scarcer. [I]THAT DOES NOT AFFECT THE GRADE![/I] Example: [url]http://www.coinworld.com/news/us-coins/2017/07/one-of-two-known-1806-0-108-half-dollars.all.html[/url] The die state with the large CUD is extremely rare, but by your definition, the imperfect die should make it worth less. In fact, the opposite is true. Sure, you can say the relative value should be reflected in the grade. But then the VG-08 (net graded down due to scratches that should have detailed it) should be raised to MS-64/65 to cover the $60000-80000 value ascribed to this coin. See the flaw in your logic here? An imperfection of the dies does not change the grade. An imperfection in strike, planchet preparation, etc. can but usually does not for pre-1878 coins.[/QUOTE]
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