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<p>[QUOTE="The_Cave_Troll, post: 35777, member: 1674"]1) I don't think I would call a PR68 a "dog." 68 is an extremely high rating. In my experience, most proof coins pulled strait from sets from the mint are in the PR65-PF67 range. Ultra-Modern proofs are well made and carefully handled by the mint, but *stuff* happens and they RARELY leave the mint in PR69/70 condition (there are some collectors who contend that there is no such thing as a "perfect" coin and as such PR/MS70 should NEVER be given).</p><p><br /></p><p>2) I sincerely doubt that you (a self proclaimed amateur) could differentiate between a PR68, PR69, and PR70. (the vast majority of collectors can't). The graders who actually assign the grades have decades of experience and they use microscopes to find the smallest imperfections to differentiate the topmost grades. Most collectors, if given 15 coins all professionally graded Pr68-70 would be doing little more than guessing if they tried to sort them by grade assigned. ( know I would be.)</p><p><br /></p><p>3) I only recommend PCGS and NGC when buying 69's and 70's. ICG tends to grade a lot of 70's by comparison , so their values aren't as good/reliable.</p><p><br /></p><p>4) A common practice with some high volume dealers is to cherrypick proof sets and then submit the best coins for grading in the hopes of a 68+ grade. They literally search hundreds of proof sets for a handful of coins to submit. What this means for you is that unless you personally received your proof set from the mint it was likely already inspected for ultra high grade coins and was deemed more valuable as a set than as individual graded coins. Bottom line: your set likly contains no PF68+ coins (the odds are against it even if it hasn't been searched).</p><p><br /></p><p>5) finally, i will reiterate a warning you have alreadyreceived, do NOT buy sgs graded coins. They have little value as they are way overgraded.</p><p><br /></p><p>good luck</p><p>CJD[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="The_Cave_Troll, post: 35777, member: 1674"]1) I don't think I would call a PR68 a "dog." 68 is an extremely high rating. In my experience, most proof coins pulled strait from sets from the mint are in the PR65-PF67 range. Ultra-Modern proofs are well made and carefully handled by the mint, but *stuff* happens and they RARELY leave the mint in PR69/70 condition (there are some collectors who contend that there is no such thing as a "perfect" coin and as such PR/MS70 should NEVER be given). 2) I sincerely doubt that you (a self proclaimed amateur) could differentiate between a PR68, PR69, and PR70. (the vast majority of collectors can't). The graders who actually assign the grades have decades of experience and they use microscopes to find the smallest imperfections to differentiate the topmost grades. Most collectors, if given 15 coins all professionally graded Pr68-70 would be doing little more than guessing if they tried to sort them by grade assigned. ( know I would be.) 3) I only recommend PCGS and NGC when buying 69's and 70's. ICG tends to grade a lot of 70's by comparison , so their values aren't as good/reliable. 4) A common practice with some high volume dealers is to cherrypick proof sets and then submit the best coins for grading in the hopes of a 68+ grade. They literally search hundreds of proof sets for a handful of coins to submit. What this means for you is that unless you personally received your proof set from the mint it was likely already inspected for ultra high grade coins and was deemed more valuable as a set than as individual graded coins. Bottom line: your set likly contains no PF68+ coins (the odds are against it even if it hasn't been searched). 5) finally, i will reiterate a warning you have alreadyreceived, do NOT buy sgs graded coins. They have little value as they are way overgraded. good luck CJD[/QUOTE]
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