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<p>[QUOTE="cwtokenman, post: 92261, member: 2100"]Ok, I'm done riding my bike for three months (storage for insurance reasons). Those 30 mile rides to work in 20 degree weather are not near so bad as most people think, but the salt sure eats up the aluminum engine cases.</p><p><br /></p><p>Rulau's catalog is generally a terrible guide for Civil War tokens. The listings are very abbreviated (only the most common token is listed for each merchant) as Rulau did not want the Civil War Token section to dominate his already hefty catalog. I do love when sellers use it though, as I have picked up a number of rare tokens that were listed as something more common. </p><p><br /></p><p>With all of that said, cloudsweeper did have the correct id number as Belmont, Ohio is a single merchant town, and a single variety merchant, meaning if any collector wants a cwt from this town, he needs one like your token. This token is listed as an R8 (5 to 10 known) token. These things are very good for you, making this token highly desirable.</p><p><br /></p><p>Kanzinger's 2002 Guide lowest listing for this token is at $2000 in F/VF. I would grade your token below that, but honestly, I doubt it would affect the value much in this case. Kanzinger's values were fairly accurate when published, and even for several years thereafter, but prices (at least on ebay) have been increasing considerably over the past year. The rarities seem to be increasing in value even more so than the commons. </p><p><br /></p><p>While I live in Ohio and am trying to put together a "city" set, I would likely have to be a spectator if you were to sell this token, but it sure would be an interesting one to watch!</p><p><br /></p><p>Oh, the reverse die is #1090, metal is copper, edge is plain. H & G # is 6501, but not many collectors use that system any more. </p><p><br /></p><p>Exonumia collectors are a bit different from collectors of regular coinage. A year or so ago, I would have told you that getting your token slabbed would have been a waste of your money, and may have actually lowered the selling price. Slabs were just hitting the cwt market, and they were not well accepted. I saw quite a few MS graded scarce cwts not even able to attract an opening bid of $1. </p><p><br /></p><p>Today, sadly IMO, that is no longer the case. Slabbed cwts are more commonplace, and unexplicably are bringing consistently higher prices than raw ones. By unexplicably, I mean that exonumia in general does not have the problems that regular coinage collectors have, and thus their "need" for slabs. Exonumia is not fraught with fakes, likely due to the fact that most people (even most coin collectors) would not be able to recognize a valuable token even if it was right in front of them. Concerns with cleaning? Heck, even Fulds indicates that something as severe as a well made hole may only lower the value about 10 percent. Even grade does not have tremendous impact, both as evidenced by total non-use of the Sheldon system in any comprehensive price/value listing that I have ever seen, as well as the vast majority of cwt values in Unc are only 1.5 to 3 times the value of the same token in F. Their scarcity makes them all desirable, regardless of grade. </p><p><br /></p><p>I would like to know your plans for this token out of curiosity.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="cwtokenman, post: 92261, member: 2100"]Ok, I'm done riding my bike for three months (storage for insurance reasons). Those 30 mile rides to work in 20 degree weather are not near so bad as most people think, but the salt sure eats up the aluminum engine cases. Rulau's catalog is generally a terrible guide for Civil War tokens. The listings are very abbreviated (only the most common token is listed for each merchant) as Rulau did not want the Civil War Token section to dominate his already hefty catalog. I do love when sellers use it though, as I have picked up a number of rare tokens that were listed as something more common. With all of that said, cloudsweeper did have the correct id number as Belmont, Ohio is a single merchant town, and a single variety merchant, meaning if any collector wants a cwt from this town, he needs one like your token. This token is listed as an R8 (5 to 10 known) token. These things are very good for you, making this token highly desirable. Kanzinger's 2002 Guide lowest listing for this token is at $2000 in F/VF. I would grade your token below that, but honestly, I doubt it would affect the value much in this case. Kanzinger's values were fairly accurate when published, and even for several years thereafter, but prices (at least on ebay) have been increasing considerably over the past year. The rarities seem to be increasing in value even more so than the commons. While I live in Ohio and am trying to put together a "city" set, I would likely have to be a spectator if you were to sell this token, but it sure would be an interesting one to watch! Oh, the reverse die is #1090, metal is copper, edge is plain. H & G # is 6501, but not many collectors use that system any more. Exonumia collectors are a bit different from collectors of regular coinage. A year or so ago, I would have told you that getting your token slabbed would have been a waste of your money, and may have actually lowered the selling price. Slabs were just hitting the cwt market, and they were not well accepted. I saw quite a few MS graded scarce cwts not even able to attract an opening bid of $1. Today, sadly IMO, that is no longer the case. Slabbed cwts are more commonplace, and unexplicably are bringing consistently higher prices than raw ones. By unexplicably, I mean that exonumia in general does not have the problems that regular coinage collectors have, and thus their "need" for slabs. Exonumia is not fraught with fakes, likely due to the fact that most people (even most coin collectors) would not be able to recognize a valuable token even if it was right in front of them. Concerns with cleaning? Heck, even Fulds indicates that something as severe as a well made hole may only lower the value about 10 percent. Even grade does not have tremendous impact, both as evidenced by total non-use of the Sheldon system in any comprehensive price/value listing that I have ever seen, as well as the vast majority of cwt values in Unc are only 1.5 to 3 times the value of the same token in F. Their scarcity makes them all desirable, regardless of grade. I would like to know your plans for this token out of curiosity.[/QUOTE]
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