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<p>[QUOTE="lrbguy, post: 3111200, member: 88829"]Thank you Genio pop rom! Not only do I see how they look, but with the coins just above them I think I can get a sense of scale. To see so many coins of Lyons with a wreath in the exergue or left field makes me wonder if somehow I wandered into an Arles display. </p><p><br /></p><p>Recognizing that the GE types above #243a&b are dual standard types helps to mitigate against the slight size disparity of 243a&b. For size, 243 is embedded in the matrix of dual standard types. If Bastien agrees with RIC on these, then 333 is when they appear. This is well within the period when Bruun has said the mint policy in effect called for the series marks to change at least annually. The mark type is certainly distinctive, but so few have survived it seems questionable that they were seriously issued. Nonetheless, such as may have been produced would be expected to be of the same standard as other coins of that year. Bastien's 243a is every bit as large as any of the coins in view on that page. The second coin, 243b is smaller, but I still think it would measure broader than either 240 or 241, both of which are dual standard types.</p><p><br /></p><p>Although this type was not minted at Lyons after the death of Constantine, the small bronzes they did produce from 337-340 average 14-16mm and 1.64g. So my example is a shrimpy by any standard, even though the obverse break pattern is the same as on Bastien's examples. The size disparity lends credence to Victor's observation about unauthorized production, which reveled in undersized coinage. Until I have more experience with these exceptional coins, I too am inclined to regard it as a questionable mint product, but the topic needs more study to nail down the limits of variance.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="lrbguy, post: 3111200, member: 88829"]Thank you Genio pop rom! Not only do I see how they look, but with the coins just above them I think I can get a sense of scale. To see so many coins of Lyons with a wreath in the exergue or left field makes me wonder if somehow I wandered into an Arles display. Recognizing that the GE types above #243a&b are dual standard types helps to mitigate against the slight size disparity of 243a&b. For size, 243 is embedded in the matrix of dual standard types. If Bastien agrees with RIC on these, then 333 is when they appear. This is well within the period when Bruun has said the mint policy in effect called for the series marks to change at least annually. The mark type is certainly distinctive, but so few have survived it seems questionable that they were seriously issued. Nonetheless, such as may have been produced would be expected to be of the same standard as other coins of that year. Bastien's 243a is every bit as large as any of the coins in view on that page. The second coin, 243b is smaller, but I still think it would measure broader than either 240 or 241, both of which are dual standard types. Although this type was not minted at Lyons after the death of Constantine, the small bronzes they did produce from 337-340 average 14-16mm and 1.64g. So my example is a shrimpy by any standard, even though the obverse break pattern is the same as on Bastien's examples. The size disparity lends credence to Victor's observation about unauthorized production, which reveled in undersized coinage. Until I have more experience with these exceptional coins, I too am inclined to regard it as a questionable mint product, but the topic needs more study to nail down the limits of variance.[/QUOTE]
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