Cilician Armenian Ag coin -- Trying to identify. Gosdantin IV?

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  1. The Eidolon

    The Eidolon Well-Known Member

    I got this a long time ago, maybe the mid-90s, from my then-local coin shop.
    The attribution said "Armenia 13th C Silver Tram $5.00"
    Current weight is about 1.61 g, irregular shape but about 19 mm diameter.
    Obverse is a king on horseback with a scepter.
    Reverse is a lion with a cross over its back.

    It's struck off-center and worn, so I can't really make out the edge text.
    Just going by the closest match to the image on Numista, the closest I can find is this Cilician Armenian Takvorin of Gosdantin IV, which should be about 1.9 g. Could I be on the right track? Is a 15% weight loss from wear plausible? Some of the earlier coins are lighter, but don't look like a close match. I think I might see the "S" under the horse and the lion for this king, but I'm not confident.

    Mostly I collect early modern coinage, so this is for away from my area of knowledge. Any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks!
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  3. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    I think you're OK with the ID, mine is below:

    Constantine IV, King of Armenia *Gosdantin IV* (1365-1373 A.D.)
    AR Takvorin
    O: +ԿՈՍՏԸ(ԱՆԴԻՆ) (ԹԱԳԱ)ՈՐ ՀՈՑ, King riding right holding cross sceptre, below horse s
    R.+ՉԻՆԱԼ Ի ՔԱՂԱՔՆ Ի ՍԻՍ , lion right, right paw raised, cross in back, below s.
    Sis (now Kozan, Turkey) mint,
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  4. Orielensis

    Orielensis Well-Known Member

    The takvorins of Gosdantin III and IV are almost impossible to distinguish. Here is a little guide on how to try nonetheless. I've just labelled mine "Gosdantin III/IV."

    MA – Armenien, Gosdantin III.:IV., Takvorin.png
    Gosdantin III or IV, Armenian Kingdom of Cilicia, AR Takvorin, 1344–1373 AD, Sis or Tarsus mint. Reverse: Armenian legend, king riding r., holding lily sceptre. Rev: Armenian legend, lion with cross walking r. 23mm, 1.97g. Ref: Nercessian 471–478; 491–496. Doublestruck and/or overstruck.
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