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<p>[QUOTE="Orielensis, post: 3540983, member: 96898"]Sometimes, there are coins on ebay that make me chuckle and wonder at the same time:</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]941073[/ATTACH]</p><p><u><br /></u></p><p><u>Just a couple of comments</u>:</p><p>- Schwäbisch Hall is not in Austria. To get from Hall to the Austrian border will take you about 5 hours, provided you have a fast car and there are no traffic jams...</p><p>- The date range is wrong: 1156–1396 AD would have been more realistic.</p><p>- The price is pure fantasy. On a good day, this coin might sell for $40. On a very good day.</p><p>- Could we please have a catalogue reference?</p><p>- I won't even start to wonder why someone would attach a label like MS64 to a medieval coin...</p><p><br /></p><p>The text that apparently comes with the slab has even greater comical value:</p><p>[ATTACH=full]941071[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p><u>Again, just the basics</u>:</p><p>- Again: not Austria, <b>definitely not </b>Austria!</p><p>- The hand on this coin is <b>not</b> the <i>manus dei</i> but a glove representing the right to mint. This information can be found by looking at the respective catalogue. Or simply by entering "hand heller" into google. Still, they produced a great fantasy story. (Also, I did a <a href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/common-medieval-coins-info-thread.337725/#post-3496344" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/common-medieval-coins-info-thread.337725/#post-3496344">write-up</a> on the type, in case you want to know more.)</p><p>- Medieval art is full of depictions of God the Father, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit. Medieval theologians, at least in the period in which this coin was minted, had no problem with depicting God as long as these images were not taken to be accurate representations. Whoever did this write-up might have confused some world religions...</p><p>- This coin has precious little to do with the Habsburgs. Okay, there were Rudolf I (r. 1273–1291) and Albrecht I (r. 1298–1308), but the great time of the Habsburgs came way after this coin was struck. If the Habsburgs had any influence on the Hall mint, it must have been rather minimal.</p><p><br /></p><p>I hope NGC Ancients had nothing to do with this. Though I am not a fan of slabbing, I respect their numismatic expertise.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Orielensis, post: 3540983, member: 96898"]Sometimes, there are coins on ebay that make me chuckle and wonder at the same time: [ATTACH=full]941073[/ATTACH] [U] Just a couple of comments[/U]: - Schwäbisch Hall is not in Austria. To get from Hall to the Austrian border will take you about 5 hours, provided you have a fast car and there are no traffic jams... - The date range is wrong: 1156–1396 AD would have been more realistic. - The price is pure fantasy. On a good day, this coin might sell for $40. On a very good day. - Could we please have a catalogue reference? - I won't even start to wonder why someone would attach a label like MS64 to a medieval coin... The text that apparently comes with the slab has even greater comical value: [ATTACH=full]941071[/ATTACH] [U]Again, just the basics[/U]: - Again: not Austria, [B]definitely not [/B]Austria! - The hand on this coin is [B]not[/B] the [I]manus dei[/I] but a glove representing the right to mint. This information can be found by looking at the respective catalogue. Or simply by entering "hand heller" into google. Still, they produced a great fantasy story. (Also, I did a [URL='https://www.cointalk.com/threads/common-medieval-coins-info-thread.337725/#post-3496344']write-up[/URL] on the type, in case you want to know more.) - Medieval art is full of depictions of God the Father, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit. Medieval theologians, at least in the period in which this coin was minted, had no problem with depicting God as long as these images were not taken to be accurate representations. Whoever did this write-up might have confused some world religions... - This coin has precious little to do with the Habsburgs. Okay, there were Rudolf I (r. 1273–1291) and Albrecht I (r. 1298–1308), but the great time of the Habsburgs came way after this coin was struck. If the Habsburgs had any influence on the Hall mint, it must have been rather minimal. I hope NGC Ancients had nothing to do with this. Though I am not a fan of slabbing, I respect their numismatic expertise.[/QUOTE]
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