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<p>[QUOTE="Plumbata, post: 3235450, member: 96864"]Thanks for the kind words and insights everyone, it's definitely appreciated.</p><p><br /></p><p>[USER=74834]@Pellinore[/USER] Thanks for the info, I should have known from items like the Aphrodite Kallipygos, or the tastiest crab on earth; Callinectes sapidus <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />. For the record, the sling bullet is made out of metallic lead; the yellow and white patina is Lead Oxide and Lead Carbonate. The bullets were cast in molds (likely bronze molds for embossed bullets) and not individually inscribed. Here is the one from the Roma Numismatic E-LIVE Auction 3 Lot 1112:</p><p>[ATTACH=full]845829[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>[USER=78411]@Nicholas Molinari[/USER] That seems to cut closer to the bone, I didn't know anything about general Kalas/Calas but having been appointed governor of Hellespontine Phrygia, and having mercenaries under command perhaps some of the troops originated in Ephesus, as [USER=10461]@lordmarcovan[/USER] suggested? There are many different bullets with Bees or Wasps though, and they certainly aren't all from Ephesian slingers. It appears that the Greeks really saturated their bullets with meaning and double entendres, so I wouldn't be surprised if the Bee represented both an Ephesian origin of the slingers as well as the "stinging" of the enemy, with "ΚΑΛΑ" referencing their commander as well as an insult to the masculinity of the enemy recipients (though I'm not sure how well modern western notions meshed with Hellenistic notions of manliness). And when you say "Others have suggested...", were they referring to these bullets specifically or just "ΚΑΛΑ"? Whatever the case I'm definitely closer to the facts than I was yesterday, so thanks!</p><p><br /></p><p>[USER=19463]@dougsmit[/USER] Thanks for showing your "fraction" and your thoughts on the little silvers of Tragilos. I've been thoroughly confused by the denominational categorization, but in the time searching for decent examples at good prices I've noticed that the weight of the Grape-Bunch fractions is around 3/5-2/3 or so of the weight of the Barley-head fractions, or at least consistently lighter. My Barley example is 8mm, 0.34g and a bit on the heavier side, with the 0.18g Grape bunch being a bit lighter than my observations suggest to be usual. I don't know what they are specifically but am of the opinion they represent different denominations. (pardon the pics, a proper camera is on its way)</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]845836[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]845838[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>And thanks for complimenting the spearheads [USER=87200]@ancient coin hunter[/USER] and [USER=56653]@seth77[/USER], I have a few ancient examples that are in such a state of preservation that they could be hafted and without re-sharpening chucked with deadly effect. Coins are fantastic, but I see them as merely a component of ancient life; a means to an end, with the antiquities representing <i>the </i>ends obtained with the coins, with both categories together painting a broad and tangible panorama of ancient life that neither could do alone.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Plumbata, post: 3235450, member: 96864"]Thanks for the kind words and insights everyone, it's definitely appreciated. [USER=74834]@Pellinore[/USER] Thanks for the info, I should have known from items like the Aphrodite Kallipygos, or the tastiest crab on earth; Callinectes sapidus :). For the record, the sling bullet is made out of metallic lead; the yellow and white patina is Lead Oxide and Lead Carbonate. The bullets were cast in molds (likely bronze molds for embossed bullets) and not individually inscribed. Here is the one from the Roma Numismatic E-LIVE Auction 3 Lot 1112: [ATTACH=full]845829[/ATTACH] [USER=78411]@Nicholas Molinari[/USER] That seems to cut closer to the bone, I didn't know anything about general Kalas/Calas but having been appointed governor of Hellespontine Phrygia, and having mercenaries under command perhaps some of the troops originated in Ephesus, as [USER=10461]@lordmarcovan[/USER] suggested? There are many different bullets with Bees or Wasps though, and they certainly aren't all from Ephesian slingers. It appears that the Greeks really saturated their bullets with meaning and double entendres, so I wouldn't be surprised if the Bee represented both an Ephesian origin of the slingers as well as the "stinging" of the enemy, with "ΚΑΛΑ" referencing their commander as well as an insult to the masculinity of the enemy recipients (though I'm not sure how well modern western notions meshed with Hellenistic notions of manliness). And when you say "Others have suggested...", were they referring to these bullets specifically or just "ΚΑΛΑ"? Whatever the case I'm definitely closer to the facts than I was yesterday, so thanks! [USER=19463]@dougsmit[/USER] Thanks for showing your "fraction" and your thoughts on the little silvers of Tragilos. I've been thoroughly confused by the denominational categorization, but in the time searching for decent examples at good prices I've noticed that the weight of the Grape-Bunch fractions is around 3/5-2/3 or so of the weight of the Barley-head fractions, or at least consistently lighter. My Barley example is 8mm, 0.34g and a bit on the heavier side, with the 0.18g Grape bunch being a bit lighter than my observations suggest to be usual. I don't know what they are specifically but am of the opinion they represent different denominations. (pardon the pics, a proper camera is on its way) [ATTACH=full]845836[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]845838[/ATTACH] And thanks for complimenting the spearheads [USER=87200]@ancient coin hunter[/USER] and [USER=56653]@seth77[/USER], I have a few ancient examples that are in such a state of preservation that they could be hafted and without re-sharpening chucked with deadly effect. Coins are fantastic, but I see them as merely a component of ancient life; a means to an end, with the antiquities representing [I]the [/I]ends obtained with the coins, with both categories together painting a broad and tangible panorama of ancient life that neither could do alone.[/QUOTE]
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