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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Bernard Olij, post: 544555, member: 16998&quot;]<font face="Times New Roman"><font size="3">“Cross with four dots” mark.</font></font></p><p><font face="Times New Roman"><font size="3">Visiting the site </font></font><a href="http://www.theresia.name/" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.theresia.name/" rel="nofollow"><font face="Times New Roman"><font size="3"><span style="color: #0000ff">www.theresia.name</span></font></font></a><font face="Times New Roman"><font size="3"> you see under Soumenep nr. S5</font></font></p><p><font face="Times New Roman"><font size="3">a rough sample of this mark. There is also mentioned: 1) This mark is till </font></font></p><p><font face="Times New Roman"><font size="3">now NOT found on Maria Theresia Thalers. 2) The mark exists on a&nbsp; Mexican</font></font></p><p><font face="Times New Roman"><font size="3">8 reales piece and was mentioned to be “from Sumatra” (a large Indonesian island.)</font></font></p><p><font face="Times New Roman"><font size="3">during an presentation, without further explanation.</font></font></p><p><font face="Times New Roman"><font size="3">I also found this mark on a Mexican cob of 1729 in the book “Cobs Pieces of Eight</font></font></p><p><font face="Times New Roman"><font size="3">and Treasure Coins” by Sewall Menzel, page 121.</font></font></p><p><font face="Times New Roman"><font size="3">The attachment&nbsp; to this message shows a One Keping of the “Island of Sultana (=</font></font></p><p><font face="Times New Roman"><font size="3">Sumatra) issued 1828-1830, but dated 1804. This is a Token of Singapore merchants, a fantasy piece for trade in the region with a.o. the North coast of Sumatra.</font></font></p><p><font face="Times New Roman"><font size="3">Please look at the Immitation Coat of Arms of the British East-India Company. In</font></font></p><p><font face="Times New Roman"><font size="3">the left upper quarter of this arms you see the exact picture of our chopmark.</font></font></p><p><font face="Times New Roman"><font size="3">(See: “Encyclopedia Coins of Malaysia Singapore and Brunei 1400-1967” by</font></font></p><p><font face="Times New Roman"><font size="3">Saran Singh for this Token)</font></font></p><p><font face="Times New Roman"><font size="3">I am of the opinion, that this chopmark is done for trade in this region by merchants of Singapore or of the Trading Posts on the North Coast of Sumatra. Cobs and Pieces of </font></font></p><p><font face="Times New Roman"><font size="3">Eight were found here in plenty. </font></font></p><p><font face="Times New Roman"><font size="3">I do NOT believe this mark is applied during the Mexican Revolution, as stated by GDJMSP. If you has a reference, I would like to know.&nbsp; I have an extensive library on South American and Mexican coins and did not find this mark anywhere in this literature.</font></font></p><p><font face="Times New Roman"><font size="3">Any further information is most appreciated. Thanks.</font></font>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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