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<p>[QUOTE="Silver_Dollars, post: 80053, member: 3327"]They must have had a lot of time to waist, forging two intricate tiny dies just to stamp this coin. It would have taken countless hours by a master metal worker to make the two distinct Cap and Ray designs (any idiot could have made the strange looking cross). I do not think they were playing around but maybe trying to fool collectors, but then again what would be the purpose as the coin is now worthless because of the damage. I am not so quick to pass judgment on this coin yet as I have heard rumors of fake chop marked Mexican coins in the past, made to pass as contemporary examples. Are there contemporary examples??? Maybe in museums??? Or specialized reference books??? If a fellow only uses KM as their guide to what does and does not exist, let me give this example; I consider myself an expert in the Xian Feng reign of Chinese cash, KM might give one or two varieties of a coin that actually has 200 to 300 varieties, I have one reference on this ten-year period that is larger than the entire KM catalog of world coins 19th century edition. Worse yet telling someone their coin is fake without even doing the research in my opinion is poor numismatics…..[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Silver_Dollars, post: 80053, member: 3327"]They must have had a lot of time to waist, forging two intricate tiny dies just to stamp this coin. It would have taken countless hours by a master metal worker to make the two distinct Cap and Ray designs (any idiot could have made the strange looking cross). I do not think they were playing around but maybe trying to fool collectors, but then again what would be the purpose as the coin is now worthless because of the damage. I am not so quick to pass judgment on this coin yet as I have heard rumors of fake chop marked Mexican coins in the past, made to pass as contemporary examples. Are there contemporary examples??? Maybe in museums??? Or specialized reference books??? If a fellow only uses KM as their guide to what does and does not exist, let me give this example; I consider myself an expert in the Xian Feng reign of Chinese cash, KM might give one or two varieties of a coin that actually has 200 to 300 varieties, I have one reference on this ten-year period that is larger than the entire KM catalog of world coins 19th century edition. Worse yet telling someone their coin is fake without even doing the research in my opinion is poor numismatics…..[/QUOTE]
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