Chop mark on a silver coin

Sullykerry2 · Mar 30, 2016

I collect Japanese coins and do have a 1896 One Yen MS-62 graded with one left chop mark, ("gin"). I will go with "gxseries" on value. Also you have to be very careful with any Japanese, Korean or Chinese silver as these coins may have been cleaned in the past. I used to live in Japan and even local dealers are reticent about the imprint of chop marks.

Great thread though.

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noname · Apr 9, 2016

Augie LoMonaco said: ↑

Yes and I almost sold it on Ebay for $99. I read it went for auction at $400.....I have a few more. The coins with chop marks are rare it said
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Replying to a forgotten 11 tear old thread?

Director · Jan 11, 2024

Ian said: ↑

When you grade counterstamped coinage, it is the quality and condition of the actual counterstamp that is graded.

That is, you can have (for example) a Spanish colonial 8 reales piece with the George III bust counterstamped on it. The host coin might be flat as a pancake, but if the actual counterstamp is EF, then the coin is EF.

Not so with chop marks.

I tend to think the same as GD and Roy, but each to their own with chop marks. I bought a few chopped coins in fascination and to study the chops first hand. It is a collecting field in its own right and while one or two chops on a coin is generally accepted as making the host `interesting' any more tends to render the coin `damaged' to the vast majority of the numismatic community.

Having said that a good few years ago I turned down the offer of a Maria Theresia thaler that was absolutely crawling with chop marks both sides. The original coin was barely recognisable in consequence. In hindsight, I wish I had taken it, as it probably had nigh on every chop mark known on it!

If you ever want to know more concerning chops etcetera, there's a neat booklet by F.M. Rose entitled `Chopmarks' (ISBN1-889172-13-8). There may be others out there, but that's one I know of and can recommend. It only cost me $10 a couple of years back, and if you have difficulty getting hold of it, I think (?) I know someone who might still have it in stock.

Ian
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Hi Ian:

I have a coin with a chop mark. It says FM Rose Page 29/2. Would you be kind enough to send me a scan or a pic of pages 29 and 30 since you already have the book? I have attached the pics for your kind perusal. Thank you very much.

BRandM · Jan 11, 2024

Ian said: ↑

When you grade counterstamped coinage, it is the quality and condition of the actual counterstamp that is graded.

That is, you can have (for example) a Spanish colonial 8 reales piece with the George III bust counterstamped on it. The host coin might be flat as a pancake, but if the actual counterstamp is EF, then the coin is EF.

Not so with chop marks.

I tend to think the same as GD and Roy, but each to their own with chop marks. I bought a few chopped coins in fascination and to study the chops first hand. It is a collecting field in its own right and while one or two chops on a coin is generally accepted as making the host `interesting' any more tends to render the coin `damaged' to the vast majority of the numismatic community.

Having said that a good few years ago I turned down the offer of a Maria Theresia thaler that was absolutely crawling with chop marks both sides. The original coin was barely recognisable in consequence. In hindsight, I wish I had taken it, as it probably had nigh on every chop mark known on it!

If you ever want to know more concerning chops etcetera, there's a neat booklet by F.M. Rose entitled `Chopmarks' (ISBN1-889172-13-8). There may be others out there, but that's one I know of and can recommend. It only cost me $10 a couple of years back, and if you have difficulty getting hold of it, I think (?) I know someone who might still have it in stock.

Ian
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Actually, counterstamped coins are often graded twice...once for the counterstamp and a second time for the condition of the coin. Both matter to most collectors.

Bruce

Director · Jan 11, 2024

BRandM said: ↑

Actually, counterstamped coins are often graded twice...once for the counterstamp and a second time for the condition of the coin. Both matter to most collectors.

Bruce
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Hi Bruce,

What are your views about my coin?

Thanks.

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