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<p>[QUOTE="manymore, post: 1163110, member: 17118"]It is a <a href="http://primaltrek.com/daoist.html" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://primaltrek.com/daoist.html" rel="nofollow">Daoist (Taoist) charm</a> and actually has nothing to do with emperors, generals or governors.</p><p><br /></p><p>The bottom image shows on the right an "immortal" ("halo" circle around head) sitting under a <a href="http://primaltrek.com/impliedmeaning.html#pine" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://primaltrek.com/impliedmeaning.html#pine" rel="nofollow">pine</a> tree. In the sky is a <a href="http://primaltrek.com/impliedmeaning.html#moon" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://primaltrek.com/impliedmeaning.html#moon" rel="nofollow">moon</a> (circle beneath the hole) surrounded by clouds.</p><p><br /></p><p>Immediately to the left of the "immortal" is a four-legged incense burner or cauldron on a stand.</p><p><br /></p><p>To the left of the incense burner is a <a href="http://primaltrek.com/impliedmeaning.html#crane" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://primaltrek.com/impliedmeaning.html#crane" rel="nofollow">crane</a> with an open mouth. At the extreme left corner is a <a href="http://primaltrek.com/impliedmeaning.html#tortoise" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://primaltrek.com/impliedmeaning.html#tortoise" rel="nofollow">tortoise</a>.</p><p><br /></p><p>At the very bottom of the charm are leaves on a peach branch with a <a href="http://primaltrek.com/impliedmeaning.html#peach" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://primaltrek.com/impliedmeaning.html#peach" rel="nofollow">peach</a> at the very center.</p><p><br /></p><p>The symbols on this charm are all associated with "longevity". The immortal, of course, is one who lives forever. The crane, tortoise, peach and pine tree are all symbols of longevity.</p><p><br /></p><p>The cauldron or incense burner alludes to the Daoist quest to find the "elixir of immortality". The "moon" is related to the story of the <a href="http://primaltrek.com/auspicious.html#moon_hare" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://primaltrek.com/auspicious.html#moon_hare" rel="nofollow">"Moon Hare" ("Jade Rabbit")</a> who pounds leaves of the cassia (cinnamon) tree with mortar and pestle in an attempt to make the "pill of immortality". The <a href="http://primaltrek.com/gourd.html#alchemy" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://primaltrek.com/gourd.html#alchemy" rel="nofollow">Daoists believed in alchemy</a> and the incense burner or cauldron symbolizes their attempt to make the "elixir of immortality" from cinnabar.</p><p><br /></p><p>The "peach" is the food of the immortals. It is associated with the <a href="http://primaltrek.com/peach.html#peach_and_longevity" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://primaltrek.com/peach.html#peach_and_longevity" rel="nofollow">Queen Mother of the West</a> who had a peach orchard. Eating one of these peaches would allow a person to live 3,000 years.</p><p><br /></p><p>The reverse side (top image) of the charm has a large character written in what is known as <a href="http://primaltrek.com/daoist.html#daoist_magic_writing" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://primaltrek.com/daoist.html#daoist_magic_writing" rel="nofollow">Daoist "magic writing" or "magic script"</a>. Unfortunately, with the possible exception of Daoist priests, the meaning of these characters remain unknown.</p><p><br /></p><p>However, this particular character is very similar to one on a Daoist charm of mine. Compare the character on your charm with <a href="http://primaltrek.com/daoist.html#fu_shou_yan_chang" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://primaltrek.com/daoist.html#fu_shou_yan_chang" rel="nofollow">the character at the left of the round hole on mine</a>. While the exact meaning of the character on my charm is unknown, it happens to be paired together with the Chinese character "<i>chang</i>" which means "long". Again, it is unknown if this pairing has any relationship or not.</p><p><br /></p><p>Daoist charms of this type first appeared during the Song Dynasty (960-1279 AD) so the note accompanying your charm indicating "about 1300 AD" <u>could</u> be correct. However, later reproductions of these charms also exist.</p><p><br /></p><p>Gary[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="manymore, post: 1163110, member: 17118"]It is a [URL="http://primaltrek.com/daoist.html"]Daoist (Taoist) charm[/URL] and actually has nothing to do with emperors, generals or governors. The bottom image shows on the right an "immortal" ("halo" circle around head) sitting under a [URL="http://primaltrek.com/impliedmeaning.html#pine"]pine[/URL] tree. In the sky is a [URL="http://primaltrek.com/impliedmeaning.html#moon"]moon[/URL] (circle beneath the hole) surrounded by clouds. Immediately to the left of the "immortal" is a four-legged incense burner or cauldron on a stand. To the left of the incense burner is a [URL="http://primaltrek.com/impliedmeaning.html#crane"]crane[/URL] with an open mouth. At the extreme left corner is a [URL="http://primaltrek.com/impliedmeaning.html#tortoise"]tortoise[/URL]. At the very bottom of the charm are leaves on a peach branch with a [URL="http://primaltrek.com/impliedmeaning.html#peach"]peach[/URL] at the very center. The symbols on this charm are all associated with "longevity". The immortal, of course, is one who lives forever. The crane, tortoise, peach and pine tree are all symbols of longevity. The cauldron or incense burner alludes to the Daoist quest to find the "elixir of immortality". The "moon" is related to the story of the [URL="http://primaltrek.com/auspicious.html#moon_hare"]"Moon Hare" ("Jade Rabbit")[/URL] who pounds leaves of the cassia (cinnamon) tree with mortar and pestle in an attempt to make the "pill of immortality". The [URL="http://primaltrek.com/gourd.html#alchemy"]Daoists believed in alchemy[/URL] and the incense burner or cauldron symbolizes their attempt to make the "elixir of immortality" from cinnabar. The "peach" is the food of the immortals. It is associated with the [URL="http://primaltrek.com/peach.html#peach_and_longevity"]Queen Mother of the West[/URL] who had a peach orchard. Eating one of these peaches would allow a person to live 3,000 years. The reverse side (top image) of the charm has a large character written in what is known as [URL="http://primaltrek.com/daoist.html#daoist_magic_writing"]Daoist "magic writing" or "magic script"[/URL]. Unfortunately, with the possible exception of Daoist priests, the meaning of these characters remain unknown. However, this particular character is very similar to one on a Daoist charm of mine. Compare the character on your charm with [URL="http://primaltrek.com/daoist.html#fu_shou_yan_chang"]the character at the left of the round hole on mine[/URL]. While the exact meaning of the character on my charm is unknown, it happens to be paired together with the Chinese character "[I]chang[/I]" which means "long". Again, it is unknown if this pairing has any relationship or not. Daoist charms of this type first appeared during the Song Dynasty (960-1279 AD) so the note accompanying your charm indicating "about 1300 AD" [U]could[/U] be correct. However, later reproductions of these charms also exist. Gary[/QUOTE]
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