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<p>[QUOTE="ahearn, post: 1280625, member: 18211"]Other than the last series of posts, this thread has been extremely interesting in that it revealed a diverse set of opinions regarding the reality and significance of Chinese counterfeits. </p><p><br /></p><p>There are those who:</p><p><br /></p><p>1. Feel there is no counterfeit problem and that Chinese coin makers are simply conducting a legit business that doesn't harm anyone. Nobody is trying to cheat anybody. Chill.</p><p><br /></p><p>2. Feel Chinese fakes are crap and easily detected, that counterfeiters are stupid and incompetent as they've always been, and the problem isn't worth worrying about. And besides we can drive them out of business by scamming them back.</p><p><br /></p><p>3. Know Chinese fakes are getting better but are confident we can detect them 100% of the time as we've always been able to do in the past using the same diagnostics and techniques we've always used. Tough, but no problem.</p><p><br /></p><p>4. Know that high-quality, hard-to-detect 90% silver Chinese coins and fake slabs are being made in large quantities and are concerned, but we are confident that buying primary TPG slabs from trusted dealers is sufficient protection.</p><p><br /></p><p>5. Believe that some of the most recent Chinese fakes are virtually undetectable by all conventional diagnostics as proven by recent experiments. Even dealers and TPGs cannot spot many of the fakes. The sky isn't falling, but there are some very low-hanging heavy clouds.</p><p><br /></p><p>6. Feel this situation seriously threatens the hobby and are thinking about getting out. The sky is falling.</p><p><br /></p><p>Personally, I'm somewhere between #4 and #5, leaning more toward #4 at the moment.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="ahearn, post: 1280625, member: 18211"]Other than the last series of posts, this thread has been extremely interesting in that it revealed a diverse set of opinions regarding the reality and significance of Chinese counterfeits. There are those who: 1. Feel there is no counterfeit problem and that Chinese coin makers are simply conducting a legit business that doesn't harm anyone. Nobody is trying to cheat anybody. Chill. 2. Feel Chinese fakes are crap and easily detected, that counterfeiters are stupid and incompetent as they've always been, and the problem isn't worth worrying about. And besides we can drive them out of business by scamming them back. 3. Know Chinese fakes are getting better but are confident we can detect them 100% of the time as we've always been able to do in the past using the same diagnostics and techniques we've always used. Tough, but no problem. 4. Know that high-quality, hard-to-detect 90% silver Chinese coins and fake slabs are being made in large quantities and are concerned, but we are confident that buying primary TPG slabs from trusted dealers is sufficient protection. 5. Believe that some of the most recent Chinese fakes are virtually undetectable by all conventional diagnostics as proven by recent experiments. Even dealers and TPGs cannot spot many of the fakes. The sky isn't falling, but there are some very low-hanging heavy clouds. 6. Feel this situation seriously threatens the hobby and are thinking about getting out. The sky is falling. Personally, I'm somewhere between #4 and #5, leaning more toward #4 at the moment.[/QUOTE]
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