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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;19Lyds, post: 1279055, member: 15929&quot;]First Off, the coin in the listing is an obvious fake primarily due to the &quot;grainy texture&quot; of the fields.</p><p><br /></p><p>Second off, the coin in the listing is absolutely no different than what has been produced in the past. In other words, no laser etching.</p><p><br /></p><p>Third off, these folks make a living off of producing &quot;replica coins&quot; which is totally legitimate in their country of origin. These &quot;replicas&quot; are easily detectable and produced in such a way as to make them easily detectable, COPY stamp or Not. They are NOT in the business of creating coins which are of such HIGH quality that they could not be distinguished from the originals as the leap from Morgan Dollars to Presidential Dollars would be very short. I&#039;m of the opinion that the manufacturer&#039;s objective is to enable collector&#039;s, American or not, to fill the holes in their albums. I believe that given their equipment and skills, that if these folks wanted to produce &quot;exact&quot; duplicates, they really could but then, thats not theior business. Their business is &quot;replica&#039;s&quot;.</p><p><br /></p><p>Fourth off, these manufacturers are not the problem, the problem is the greedy American entrepenuers that are selling these as &quot;original&quot;. Recent busts by the authorities validate this in that Coin Dealers and Pawn Shop owners are paying &quot;way less than melt&quot; for seemingly authentic &quot;rare&quot; coins and then whining when they &quot;discover&quot; that the coins are counterfeit. Exactly what kind of dealer, in all honesty, would pay $20 for an 1804 Dollar? Thats where the problem is.</p><p><br /></p><p>Fifth off, there is a tendency for those that know little about these replica&#039;s to feed a fear frenzy with statements like &quot;These guys are getting really Good&quot; and &quot;They&#039;ve upgraded their equipment!&quot; and &quot;These are so good they even fool dealers&quot;. News flash, some dealers don&#039;t really have a clue while other do, yet for financial greedy, they choose to ignore the clues! As for getting eBay listings cancelled, whether it&#039;s eBay or a Business traveler, the coins will make an appearance in America since this is what these manufacturers do for their business (fully legitimate). Cancelling the eBay listings does nothing more than elimiate the product from eBay as it&#039;s still available for sale from a private web site or in the manufacturers store. It IS the collectors responsibility to know how to identify these replica coins and if you do not know how, then YOU really need to learn because they are not going to go away.</p><p><br /></p><p>What I am trying to say, is that the dealers that were fooled into thinking these were genuine, simply did not look closely enough or were just not paying attention. These coins are easily detectable, rgardless of what some would like you to believe.</p><p><br /></p><p>Personally, I am not afraid.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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