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<p>[QUOTE="Canerrcoins, post: 826091, member: 23698"]Here is the Text of the commentary.</p><p> </p><p><br /></p><p>It is with great interest and fascination that I surf from numismatic Web site to Web site watching the constant debates about the Chinese counterfeits and eBay! </p><p>Having been involved in Canada with the actual battle with eBay about counterfeit/replica coins, I find it interesting that people will howl on Web sites about the counterfeit issue, scream for eBay heads for allowing the sale of the counterfeits, and that lynch mobs which quickly appear when a seller is thought to be “knowingly selling fakes.” </p><p>The one question I always ask is: “Have you done anything about it?” </p><p>Here are some responses: </p><p>“Yes, I reported it to eBay.” </p><p>“It is not my job to police that site.” </p><p>“Why bother, nothing will be done.” </p><p>My thoughts on all three answers: WRONG! </p><p>I watch people get fleeced everyday with the counterfeit U.S. coins which are being made in China. I am astounded that as “Americans” you (the American collecting public) allow this to go on. </p><p>It took almost two years of kicking and screaming to get authorities here in Canada to listen. However, I do not see an individual or group in the United States leading the fight. </p><p>I talk with collectors from south of the border constantly. The main response when challenged is: “The authorities have bigger fish to fry” or “They are not interested!” </p><p>Well, my response to that is: “I did not realize that the U.S.A. was the only country whose ‘authorities’ are busy with ‘other bigger fish.’” </p><p>I am going to give you a push in the right direction. </p><p>Here is a Web site. <a href="http://jinghuashei.com/" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://jinghuashei.com/" rel="nofollow"><span style="color: #0000ff">http://jinghuashei.com/</span></a> Yes, it belongs to one of the factories in China that counterfeits U.S. coins. </p><p>Read it closely. See anything there that gets your attention? How about, “I will provide coins with or with out ‘Copy’”? </p><p>OK, the United States’ Hobby Protection Act says that is counterfeiting. </p><p>Next, how about if the purchase of one of these counterfeit coins is conducted using Paypal? He states at his Web site that he accepts Paypal and provides instructions encouraging buyers to use it. </p><p>OK, he is counterfeiting. If Paypal is used to facilitate the transaction, then is not Paypal laundering money for a counterfeiter? </p><p>Wake up people. Look at the ammunition this individual gives you on his own Web site. He is breaking U.S. laws. Paypal and eBay are American companies. Need a map? </p><p>Get on a soap box other than numismatic Web sites. Surely there is someone who will fight for the numismatic heritage of the United States of America. </p><p>Maybe after the Olympics, I will attempt to get Steven Colbert (The Colbert Report) involved. He wouldn’t let anyone hurt the American heritage. </p><p>Every individual has an agenda. Numismatics is a hobby for most, a livelihood for some. If new entrants into the hobby get burned by a counterfeit, or the paranoia counterfeits create turns new collectors off and they leave in significant numbers, the hobby will die. </p><p>Think about it. It is time to act. </p><p>................................................................. MIKE MARSHALL, a collector from Ontario, Canada, led a two-year investigation documenting 46 cases of counterfeit Canadian coins being sold on eBay.ca. He turned over his information to the Royal Canadian Mounted Police who used it to convince eBay’s administrators in July 2009 to remove all auction listings for “replica” Canadian coins and notes.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Canerrcoins, post: 826091, member: 23698"]Here is the Text of the commentary. It is with great interest and fascination that I surf from numismatic Web site to Web site watching the constant debates about the Chinese counterfeits and eBay! Having been involved in Canada with the actual battle with eBay about counterfeit/replica coins, I find it interesting that people will howl on Web sites about the counterfeit issue, scream for eBay heads for allowing the sale of the counterfeits, and that lynch mobs which quickly appear when a seller is thought to be “knowingly selling fakes.” The one question I always ask is: “Have you done anything about it?” Here are some responses: “Yes, I reported it to eBay.” “It is not my job to police that site.” “Why bother, nothing will be done.” My thoughts on all three answers: WRONG! I watch people get fleeced everyday with the counterfeit U.S. coins which are being made in China. I am astounded that as “Americans” you (the American collecting public) allow this to go on. It took almost two years of kicking and screaming to get authorities here in Canada to listen. However, I do not see an individual or group in the United States leading the fight. I talk with collectors from south of the border constantly. The main response when challenged is: “The authorities have bigger fish to fry” or “They are not interested!” Well, my response to that is: “I did not realize that the U.S.A. was the only country whose ‘authorities’ are busy with ‘other bigger fish.’” I am going to give you a push in the right direction. Here is a Web site. [URL="http://jinghuashei.com/"][COLOR=#0000ff]http://jinghuashei.com/[/COLOR][/URL] Yes, it belongs to one of the factories in China that counterfeits U.S. coins. Read it closely. See anything there that gets your attention? How about, “I will provide coins with or with out ‘Copy’”? OK, the United States’ Hobby Protection Act says that is counterfeiting. Next, how about if the purchase of one of these counterfeit coins is conducted using Paypal? He states at his Web site that he accepts Paypal and provides instructions encouraging buyers to use it. OK, he is counterfeiting. If Paypal is used to facilitate the transaction, then is not Paypal laundering money for a counterfeiter? Wake up people. Look at the ammunition this individual gives you on his own Web site. He is breaking U.S. laws. Paypal and eBay are American companies. Need a map? Get on a soap box other than numismatic Web sites. Surely there is someone who will fight for the numismatic heritage of the United States of America. Maybe after the Olympics, I will attempt to get Steven Colbert (The Colbert Report) involved. He wouldn’t let anyone hurt the American heritage. Every individual has an agenda. Numismatics is a hobby for most, a livelihood for some. If new entrants into the hobby get burned by a counterfeit, or the paranoia counterfeits create turns new collectors off and they leave in significant numbers, the hobby will die. Think about it. It is time to act. ................................................................. MIKE MARSHALL, a collector from Ontario, Canada, led a two-year investigation documenting 46 cases of counterfeit Canadian coins being sold on eBay.ca. He turned over his information to the Royal Canadian Mounted Police who used it to convince eBay’s administrators in July 2009 to remove all auction listings for “replica” Canadian coins and notes.[/QUOTE]
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