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<p>[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 1754962, member: 19463"]While I can not speak for others, I believe the problem I have had every time I start to get interested in cash is that I run across situations that seem to be extremely important to specialists that either I do not understand or that seem insignificant to my way of looking at the situation. Not reading Chinese may also be a problem. For one thing it limits me to books like Hartill written in English.</p><p> </p><p>For example, in post #10 of this thread I showed two examples of Zheng Long Hartill 18.40 which is listed as a rather common '14' ($5) coin. Hartill 18.41 is listed as the same coin except that the top character 'Zheng' has a short extension of the bottom line to the left which would require the character to be drawn with 5 strokes rather than 4. This makes the coin a rarity 6 ($250) item. I might understand some of this if that fine point of calligraphy served to separate the coins by mints or dates but all I see is a $245 1 mm bump. Now I admit that the coins I understand better (Roman) have some fly speck variations (like the six variations on Tiberius Tribute Penny chairs) but usually these are accompanied by something like mint ID or at least something that catalog authors might bother to explain. I'm not saying that I would pay extra for an 18.41 if I did understand it (I don't pay extra for special mints in Sasanian - just to mention another language that I don't read) but seeing such things just makes me feel stupid.</p><p> </p><p>My cash collection includes common 'junk' coins found in bulk lots (mostly Northern Song) and a few 'special' coins I sought out because the Emperor was a big name (built the Forbidden City, did something particularly interesting in the sense that Roman collectors favor Caligula, etc.). What I have not become convinced of yet is what I might add to my benefit (education, interest???) if I turned my 100 different cash holding into 200. </p><p>[ATTACH=full]276731[/ATTACH]</p><p> </p><p>[ATTACH=full]276732[/ATTACH]</p><p> </p><p> A recent addition (also filed off, it seems) is this Xuan De (1433-35 AD) which I wanted to match the 19th century replica bell from my wife's collection. The two center characters on the top band of the bell match the coin's top and bottom. These bells are rather common but I have never been able to find out if there is an original or why the later bell makers felt the need to make so many bells inscribed 'Made in the time of Xuan De Ming'. </p><p> </p><p>If a cash collector here could put it in words, I would be interested in hearing what it is about cash that makes them appeal to your collecting instincts.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 1754962, member: 19463"]While I can not speak for others, I believe the problem I have had every time I start to get interested in cash is that I run across situations that seem to be extremely important to specialists that either I do not understand or that seem insignificant to my way of looking at the situation. Not reading Chinese may also be a problem. For one thing it limits me to books like Hartill written in English. For example, in post #10 of this thread I showed two examples of Zheng Long Hartill 18.40 which is listed as a rather common '14' ($5) coin. Hartill 18.41 is listed as the same coin except that the top character 'Zheng' has a short extension of the bottom line to the left which would require the character to be drawn with 5 strokes rather than 4. This makes the coin a rarity 6 ($250) item. I might understand some of this if that fine point of calligraphy served to separate the coins by mints or dates but all I see is a $245 1 mm bump. Now I admit that the coins I understand better (Roman) have some fly speck variations (like the six variations on Tiberius Tribute Penny chairs) but usually these are accompanied by something like mint ID or at least something that catalog authors might bother to explain. I'm not saying that I would pay extra for an 18.41 if I did understand it (I don't pay extra for special mints in Sasanian - just to mention another language that I don't read) but seeing such things just makes me feel stupid. My cash collection includes common 'junk' coins found in bulk lots (mostly Northern Song) and a few 'special' coins I sought out because the Emperor was a big name (built the Forbidden City, did something particularly interesting in the sense that Roman collectors favor Caligula, etc.). What I have not become convinced of yet is what I might add to my benefit (education, interest???) if I turned my 100 different cash holding into 200. [ATTACH=full]276731[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]276732[/ATTACH] A recent addition (also filed off, it seems) is this Xuan De (1433-35 AD) which I wanted to match the 19th century replica bell from my wife's collection. The two center characters on the top band of the bell match the coin's top and bottom. These bells are rather common but I have never been able to find out if there is an original or why the later bell makers felt the need to make so many bells inscribed 'Made in the time of Xuan De Ming'. If a cash collector here could put it in words, I would be interested in hearing what it is about cash that makes them appeal to your collecting instincts.[/QUOTE]
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