Chillville!! Guess the grade on this frosty morgan

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  1. DJCoinz

    DJCoinz Majored in Morganology

    Nope.
     
    DJCoinz, Jun 29, 2007
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  3. vipergts2

    vipergts2 Jester in hobby of kings

    Graded yes, but not MS.
    Anyway, I learned something new about the fingerprints. Thanks
     
    vipergts2, Jun 29, 2007
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  4. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    They didn't eat through it - it never toned there at all because of the fingerprints.
     
    GDJMSP, Jun 29, 2007
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  5. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator


    Circulated is defined as having wear. If there is no sign of wear the coin is MS.

    A coin be in circulation and still be graded as MS. You can get MS coins as change at the grocery store every day.
     
    GDJMSP, Jun 29, 2007
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  6. andrew289

    andrew289 Senior Analyst

    The finger prints are all over the reverse ..

    UN in united
    STA of states
    OF
    CA of America
    ONE
    LAR of dollar

    A real shame ...losses all eye appeal in my opinion but I'm not a Morgan fan.

    Bugger.
     
    andrew289, Jun 29, 2007
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  7. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member


    Yah know ....

    This does bring up an interesting point. Why is it that some coins seem to get these finger print problems, and it is always the best grades that are affected, and yet we don't experience finger prints like this on most circulated coins.

    Ruben
     
    mrbrklyn, Jun 29, 2007
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  8. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank


    I see then now, thanks.
    But, they didn't ear thru the toning, they has another chemical from the fingers placed there and caused the metal to react differently.
     
    Treashunt, Jun 30, 2007
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  9. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    They show up on Unc coins exactly because they are Unc. Unc coins have pristine surfaces, clean and unmarked. Circulated coins on the other hand are extremely marked up and worn and so they don't show the fingerprints. Think of it like this - the surface of an Unc coin could be considered like a piece of glass, very smooth and thus able to take and retain a fingerprint easily. But in comparison the surface of a circulated coin would be like a piece of sandpaper. You ever seen a fingerprint on a piece of sandpaper ? It just doesn't work because of the rough surface.
     
    GDJMSP, Jun 30, 2007
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  10. vipergts2

    vipergts2 Jester in hobby of kings

    Is it not also true that the acid on ones fingers etches into the fragile luster on an uncirculated coin, Thus leaving the print?
     
    vipergts2, Jun 30, 2007
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  11. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Yes it is.
     
    GDJMSP, Jun 30, 2007
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  12. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member


    You'd think, but I'm sure we have all plucked coins from circulation with near perfect lusters, circulating uncirculated mints ;) Especially with pennies. And yet, they rarely have finger prints on them. Occasionally you'll see a cent with a print. And it never seems to happen with the clads. I'm wondering the metal is a dig factor. Sacs seem to stain easily and yet quarters almost never at all.

    Ruben
     
    mrbrklyn, Jun 30, 2007
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  13. Jako lipo

    Jako lipo New Member

    the fingerprint doesnt show up immediatly on the surfaces it needs some time for the chemicals to etch into the metal at least that is what i think
     
    Jako lipo, Jun 30, 2007
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