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<p>[QUOTE="Wehwalt, post: 1966272, member: 33595"]I believe that the ANA would have to have known in advance. The preparations of the dealers would have been considerable, from obtaining the people, to having large quantities of cash, likely by Brinks truck, brought into the security room. Too much preparation went into this to want to want to be defeated by the ANA seeing the lines, figuring out what was going on (it was never actually a secret and they could have asked the people in line) and changing the rules or pulling the plug. Obviously they did not anticipate it would get out of hand and probably the dealers minimized "we're going to pay some people to wait in line for us because obviously we have to run the booth. Any problem with that?" "Sure, go ahead." The ANA had more important issues on its mind, like arranging hundreds of dealers to everyone's satisfaction and mailing out umpteen hundred registration badges to members. Which they did, as usual, most efficiently. I've seen no evidence they are to blame in any way.</p><p><br /></p><p>I don't find the waiting in line part nefarious at all, I've taken advantage of rules other people have set in ways they did not expect, that's what people do. I'm just curious to know if the rules were set to effectively freeze out the casual collector, who most certainly would have taken a part if it did not involve waiting out all night with the dregs of the earth, while paying $200 and more for a hotel room, which the dregs were not. There are more efficient ways of running a line, wristbands and so forth, that are done these days when in-person lines are necessary in an Internet era, for example outside the Apple store when the new model comes out. But if the rules were set this way with the thought that the collector could not compete, then we are back in the bad old days of the 1930s when entire issues of commemoratives would be bought up by dealers, except they are being nominally "fair" about it.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Wehwalt, post: 1966272, member: 33595"]I believe that the ANA would have to have known in advance. The preparations of the dealers would have been considerable, from obtaining the people, to having large quantities of cash, likely by Brinks truck, brought into the security room. Too much preparation went into this to want to want to be defeated by the ANA seeing the lines, figuring out what was going on (it was never actually a secret and they could have asked the people in line) and changing the rules or pulling the plug. Obviously they did not anticipate it would get out of hand and probably the dealers minimized "we're going to pay some people to wait in line for us because obviously we have to run the booth. Any problem with that?" "Sure, go ahead." The ANA had more important issues on its mind, like arranging hundreds of dealers to everyone's satisfaction and mailing out umpteen hundred registration badges to members. Which they did, as usual, most efficiently. I've seen no evidence they are to blame in any way. I don't find the waiting in line part nefarious at all, I've taken advantage of rules other people have set in ways they did not expect, that's what people do. I'm just curious to know if the rules were set to effectively freeze out the casual collector, who most certainly would have taken a part if it did not involve waiting out all night with the dregs of the earth, while paying $200 and more for a hotel room, which the dregs were not. There are more efficient ways of running a line, wristbands and so forth, that are done these days when in-person lines are necessary in an Internet era, for example outside the Apple store when the new model comes out. But if the rules were set this way with the thought that the collector could not compete, then we are back in the bad old days of the 1930s when entire issues of commemoratives would be bought up by dealers, except they are being nominally "fair" about it.[/QUOTE]
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