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<p>[QUOTE="Lolli, post: 4866916, member: 96900"]The circular thing is possibly a trail, it is in the dies becasue it can be found on other coins from the same dies.</p><p>I do not like the coin, especially the strange very soft but very strong edge cracks (haven´t seen nothing like this on authentic ones) and soapy details and that the metal looks strange (in hand if you have one of these in hand an authentic one). I do not know if they are supposed to be cast, transfer die or modern dies fakes, but waht I can tell is that I have seen die linked or matching fakes and fakes with this characteristics sold or offered by some notorious fake sellers on ebay.</p><p>And I was not able to find authentic coins from same club and shell reverse die, that does not mean much but is a bad sign.</p><p>The shell is missing at the lower end somthing but not sure how it is called in English and why they are missing it, on authentic ones it was always there</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1175339[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>Authentic ones with shell</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?term=Chers+lion+shell&category=1-2&en=1&de=1&fr=1&it=1&es=1&ot=1&images=1&thesaurus=1&order=0&currency=usd&company=" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?term=Chers+lion+shell&category=1-2&en=1&de=1&fr=1&it=1&es=1&ot=1&images=1&thesaurus=1&order=0&currency=usd&company=" rel="nofollow">https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?term=Chers+lion+shell&category=1-2&en=1&de=1&fr=1&it=1&es=1&ot=1&images=1&thesaurus=1&order=0&currency=usd&company=</a></p><p><br /></p><p>I do not say that your coin must be fake but I would be surprised if it would turn out to be authentic.</p><p><br /></p><p>Obverse</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1175337[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://forgerynetwork.com/asset.aspx?mode=6Q/zOXMHeZ0=&id=raTxRlb6ETc=" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://forgerynetwork.com/asset.aspx?mode=6Q/zOXMHeZ0=&id=raTxRlb6ETc=" rel="nofollow">http://forgerynetwork.com/asset.aspx?mode=6Q/zOXMHeZ0=&id=raTxRlb6ETc=</a></p><p><br /></p><p>Authetnic ones with club on reverse, but they have a dot next to the club which is here missing</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?term=Chers+lion+club&category=1-2&en=1&de=1&fr=1&it=1&es=1&ot=1&images=1&thesaurus=1&order=0&currency=usd&company=" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?term=Chers+lion+club&category=1-2&en=1&de=1&fr=1&it=1&es=1&ot=1&images=1&thesaurus=1&order=0&currency=usd&company=" rel="nofollow">https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?term=Chers+lion+club&category=1-2&en=1&de=1&fr=1&it=1&es=1&ot=1&images=1&thesaurus=1&order=0&currency=usd&company=</a></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Reverse</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1175338[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://forgerynetwork.com/asset.aspx?id=njJkRKqZ2N4=" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://forgerynetwork.com/asset.aspx?id=njJkRKqZ2N4=" rel="nofollow">http://forgerynetwork.com/asset.aspx?id=njJkRKqZ2N4=</a></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Barry Murphy who is here too, is familiar with these coins and possibly knows if your coin is authentic or not</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://bpmurphy.ancients.info/chersonese/page1.htm" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://bpmurphy.ancients.info/chersonese/page1.htm" rel="nofollow">http://bpmurphy.ancients.info/chersonese/page1.htm</a></p><p><br /></p><p>To the die matching and die linked fakes sold by nfs on ebay, they are too MANY (look for some of these fakes sold by silverdenar or ancient_kingdoms etc.)</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="https://www.coryssa.org/index.php/subcategory/all/subcategory_id/6010/page/0/keywords/Chersonesos/search2/yes/date_to/2020-09-16/use_checkboxes/0/search_title/on/period/all" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.coryssa.org/index.php/subcategory/all/subcategory_id/6010/page/0/keywords/Chersonesos/search2/yes/date_to/2020-09-16/use_checkboxes/0/search_title/on/period/all" rel="nofollow">https://www.coryssa.org/index.php/subcategory/all/subcategory_id/6010/page/0/keywords/Chersonesos/search2/yes/date_to/2020-09-16/use_checkboxes/0/search_title/on/period/all</a>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Lolli, post: 4866916, member: 96900"]The circular thing is possibly a trail, it is in the dies becasue it can be found on other coins from the same dies. I do not like the coin, especially the strange very soft but very strong edge cracks (haven´t seen nothing like this on authentic ones) and soapy details and that the metal looks strange (in hand if you have one of these in hand an authentic one). I do not know if they are supposed to be cast, transfer die or modern dies fakes, but waht I can tell is that I have seen die linked or matching fakes and fakes with this characteristics sold or offered by some notorious fake sellers on ebay. And I was not able to find authentic coins from same club and shell reverse die, that does not mean much but is a bad sign. The shell is missing at the lower end somthing but not sure how it is called in English and why they are missing it, on authentic ones it was always there [ATTACH=full]1175339[/ATTACH] Authentic ones with shell [URL]https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?term=Chers+lion+shell&category=1-2&en=1&de=1&fr=1&it=1&es=1&ot=1&images=1&thesaurus=1&order=0¤cy=usd&company=[/URL] I do not say that your coin must be fake but I would be surprised if it would turn out to be authentic. Obverse [ATTACH=full]1175337[/ATTACH] [URL]http://forgerynetwork.com/asset.aspx?mode=6Q/zOXMHeZ0=&id=raTxRlb6ETc=[/URL] Authetnic ones with club on reverse, but they have a dot next to the club which is here missing [URL]https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?term=Chers+lion+club&category=1-2&en=1&de=1&fr=1&it=1&es=1&ot=1&images=1&thesaurus=1&order=0¤cy=usd&company=[/URL] Reverse [ATTACH=full]1175338[/ATTACH] [URL]http://forgerynetwork.com/asset.aspx?id=njJkRKqZ2N4=[/URL] Barry Murphy who is here too, is familiar with these coins and possibly knows if your coin is authentic or not [URL]http://bpmurphy.ancients.info/chersonese/page1.htm[/URL] To the die matching and die linked fakes sold by nfs on ebay, they are too MANY (look for some of these fakes sold by silverdenar or ancient_kingdoms etc.) [URL]https://www.coryssa.org/index.php/subcategory/all/subcategory_id/6010/page/0/keywords/Chersonesos/search2/yes/date_to/2020-09-16/use_checkboxes/0/search_title/on/period/all[/URL][/QUOTE]
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