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<p>[QUOTE="noname, post: 2401267, member: 77783"]I've had these coins since my last family visit to Beijing. (I'm Chinese) when I visited my great uncle, he told me he got a surprise for me. He knew that I was into coins, and one of his former colleagues and friend dealer in coins. So what his friend did was going around the provinces of china visiting excavation and construction sites. He'd be there for the coins. Every once in a while, the farmers, and laborers would discover pots full of bronze coins. The common Chinese person wouldn't know the historical value of these coins, so this guy would go around purchasing muitiple hoards of tens of thousands of ancient and medieval coin hoards, buying it up for copper price. What he'd do is to hire several unskilled laborers, and to tell them to sort through the hundreds of thousands of coins, and sort out the coins. What he'd do next was to auction and sell of the rarities, and sell the common coins in hoards, and turning a huge profit, pocketing the rest for himself. Back to the story, my great uncle brought me and my sister, who doesn't collect coins, to this room full of coins! He gave me a doggie bag, and told me to take as much I' d like. There must have been multiple hoards being sorted out, in like a hundred buckets, full of coins! After 4 hours of cherry picking, I left with about 300 coins. I probably could've fit a thousand coins in the bag, but I was overwhelmed. Now I know most of you guys are thinking "oh! All counterfeits"! No, my great uncle has visited the sites himself, and these coins were dirt common, literally made in the hundreds of millions during the Tang and Song dynasty. Another reason was because most of these coins were heavily encrusted, well worn, or cracked or broken. So the coins I picked out were mostly better examples. When I brought these coins back to the us, I showed my coins to a family friend who is a 30 year collector, and expert of Chinese numismatics, who previously worked as a auctioneer in Hong, Kong, and operated in antiquity research. He took a look at several coins, and he told me these are authentic, but common. I've identified most of the coins, half of these are Song and Tang dynasty medieval common coins, minted 600-1200 ad, a 30-40 are Wu Zhu minted from 100 BC-600 AD, 9 banl liang from 221 BC-150 BC, and several outliers such as Wang mang 2000 year olds, and several Qing dynasty coppers.I think a few counterfeits is possible, as these were mixed in between dozens of hoards. Oh, and for anyone asking, no this is not illegal. According to antiquities laws in China, no objects made before 1911 may be exported, unless it is a 3rd rate antique, such as coins, and common antiques. Or it is a object which is provincial, or extensively replicated. So yes, this was exported lawfully, as these are 3rd rate antiques. Feel free to ask questions![/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="noname, post: 2401267, member: 77783"]I've had these coins since my last family visit to Beijing. (I'm Chinese) when I visited my great uncle, he told me he got a surprise for me. He knew that I was into coins, and one of his former colleagues and friend dealer in coins. So what his friend did was going around the provinces of china visiting excavation and construction sites. He'd be there for the coins. Every once in a while, the farmers, and laborers would discover pots full of bronze coins. The common Chinese person wouldn't know the historical value of these coins, so this guy would go around purchasing muitiple hoards of tens of thousands of ancient and medieval coin hoards, buying it up for copper price. What he'd do is to hire several unskilled laborers, and to tell them to sort through the hundreds of thousands of coins, and sort out the coins. What he'd do next was to auction and sell of the rarities, and sell the common coins in hoards, and turning a huge profit, pocketing the rest for himself. Back to the story, my great uncle brought me and my sister, who doesn't collect coins, to this room full of coins! He gave me a doggie bag, and told me to take as much I' d like. There must have been multiple hoards being sorted out, in like a hundred buckets, full of coins! After 4 hours of cherry picking, I left with about 300 coins. I probably could've fit a thousand coins in the bag, but I was overwhelmed. Now I know most of you guys are thinking "oh! All counterfeits"! No, my great uncle has visited the sites himself, and these coins were dirt common, literally made in the hundreds of millions during the Tang and Song dynasty. Another reason was because most of these coins were heavily encrusted, well worn, or cracked or broken. So the coins I picked out were mostly better examples. When I brought these coins back to the us, I showed my coins to a family friend who is a 30 year collector, and expert of Chinese numismatics, who previously worked as a auctioneer in Hong, Kong, and operated in antiquity research. He took a look at several coins, and he told me these are authentic, but common. I've identified most of the coins, half of these are Song and Tang dynasty medieval common coins, minted 600-1200 ad, a 30-40 are Wu Zhu minted from 100 BC-600 AD, 9 banl liang from 221 BC-150 BC, and several outliers such as Wang mang 2000 year olds, and several Qing dynasty coppers.I think a few counterfeits is possible, as these were mixed in between dozens of hoards. Oh, and for anyone asking, no this is not illegal. According to antiquities laws in China, no objects made before 1911 may be exported, unless it is a 3rd rate antique, such as coins, and common antiques. Or it is a object which is provincial, or extensively replicated. So yes, this was exported lawfully, as these are 3rd rate antiques. Feel free to ask questions![/QUOTE]
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