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<p>[QUOTE="Conder101, post: 558589, member: 66"]You may not find it as exciting when you learn that they are all Conder tokens.</p><p><br /></p><p>The new discovery piece was from the County of Shropshire. I found a piece being sold as a Shropshire 13, the diagnostic being periods after the date and one of the inscriptions. It is the only reverse that had that. But the placement of the date and the positioning of the letters didn't match up. I bought it and confirmed it. It is now listed in the addendum of the standard reference and I and credited with the discovery.</p><p><br /></p><p>The second piece is also from Shropshire. I had been looking for a Shropshire 11 for many years and was never able to find one. Every time I found one listed or bought one off a price list it always turned out to be misattibuted. After returning my sixth misattributed piece to a specialist dealer I decided to send along pictures of one and point out the diaognostics. So I turned to the collection of a very advanced collector who had one an. . . . His wasn't an 11 either. But it wasn't anything else either. I had turned up a new variety in someone else's collection. Well we got that confirmed (11bis) but I started asking all the long time collectors and experts I could find if they had ever seen a Shropshire 11 that matched the diagnostics in the book and the answers all came back the same No they hadn't and they didn't know anyone else that had either. I was told that it was an error in the book and that it didn't exist. Well in Feb of 2008 I found a shropshire piece on eBay that seemed to match the piece I had discovered in the other fellows collection. It was a bad picture and I couldn't tell for sure but I bought it anyway. when it arrived I checked it out and it was not the 11bis I had hoped it was, but instead it turned out to be a Shropshire 11 that matched the descriptions in the book! A coin everyone said did not exist. I believe I currently have the only confirmed Shropshire 11.</p><p><br /></p><p>The other three are a litle more anticlimatic. The first was a piece for Warwickshire, 340bis listd as unique at the time. I was attribuing tokens on ebay checking to see if I could find one I could use and found it listed just as Warwickshire and no attribution from a seller in England. Cost me about $18, and it is the finer of the two known pieces. </p><p><br /></p><p>The second was from Inverness in Scotland. A frind of mine had recently discovered a new variety from there and had provided me with pictures. As I lookedthrough eBay I saw several Inverness pieces being sold so I checked them out and one of them turned out to be one of the new discovery. The Discovery piece was a Fine 15, my new find was an AU-50. Made for a nice confirmation piece.</p><p><br /></p><p>The third one was last summer. A seller hade a token identified as a Middlesex 949, a common token but one I don't have so I double checked the attribution and it was wrong. It was a Middlesex 951 which was listed as an R-7 coin (Sheldon rarity scale). I won it and was quite pleased with it but when I tried to trace anything about it I learned that only one piece has been seen in something like thirty years. That coin and mine are about equal in sharpness, but the other one has a nasty heavy scratch across the obv. Mine is problem free.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Conder101, post: 558589, member: 66"]You may not find it as exciting when you learn that they are all Conder tokens. The new discovery piece was from the County of Shropshire. I found a piece being sold as a Shropshire 13, the diagnostic being periods after the date and one of the inscriptions. It is the only reverse that had that. But the placement of the date and the positioning of the letters didn't match up. I bought it and confirmed it. It is now listed in the addendum of the standard reference and I and credited with the discovery. The second piece is also from Shropshire. I had been looking for a Shropshire 11 for many years and was never able to find one. Every time I found one listed or bought one off a price list it always turned out to be misattibuted. After returning my sixth misattributed piece to a specialist dealer I decided to send along pictures of one and point out the diaognostics. So I turned to the collection of a very advanced collector who had one an. . . . His wasn't an 11 either. But it wasn't anything else either. I had turned up a new variety in someone else's collection. Well we got that confirmed (11bis) but I started asking all the long time collectors and experts I could find if they had ever seen a Shropshire 11 that matched the diagnostics in the book and the answers all came back the same No they hadn't and they didn't know anyone else that had either. I was told that it was an error in the book and that it didn't exist. Well in Feb of 2008 I found a shropshire piece on eBay that seemed to match the piece I had discovered in the other fellows collection. It was a bad picture and I couldn't tell for sure but I bought it anyway. when it arrived I checked it out and it was not the 11bis I had hoped it was, but instead it turned out to be a Shropshire 11 that matched the descriptions in the book! A coin everyone said did not exist. I believe I currently have the only confirmed Shropshire 11. The other three are a litle more anticlimatic. The first was a piece for Warwickshire, 340bis listd as unique at the time. I was attribuing tokens on ebay checking to see if I could find one I could use and found it listed just as Warwickshire and no attribution from a seller in England. Cost me about $18, and it is the finer of the two known pieces. The second was from Inverness in Scotland. A frind of mine had recently discovered a new variety from there and had provided me with pictures. As I lookedthrough eBay I saw several Inverness pieces being sold so I checked them out and one of them turned out to be one of the new discovery. The Discovery piece was a Fine 15, my new find was an AU-50. Made for a nice confirmation piece. The third one was last summer. A seller hade a token identified as a Middlesex 949, a common token but one I don't have so I double checked the attribution and it was wrong. It was a Middlesex 951 which was listed as an R-7 coin (Sheldon rarity scale). I won it and was quite pleased with it but when I tried to trace anything about it I learned that only one piece has been seen in something like thirty years. That coin and mine are about equal in sharpness, but the other one has a nasty heavy scratch across the obv. Mine is problem free.[/QUOTE]
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