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<p>[QUOTE="galapac, post: 2132646, member: 73406"]Ok we are going to beat a dead horse...</p><p>From Wikipedia....</p><p><br /></p><p><b>Common Era</b> (<b>CE</b>) is the <a href="http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calendar" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calendar" rel="nofollow">calendar</a> system <a href="http://simple.wiktionary.org/wiki/common" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://simple.wiktionary.org/wiki/common" rel="nofollow">commonly</a> used in the <a href="http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_world" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_world" rel="nofollow">Western world</a> for the <a href="http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year" rel="nofollow">year</a> number part of a <a href="http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Date" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Date" rel="nofollow">date</a>. The year numbers are the same as those used for <i><a href="http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anno_Domini" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anno_Domini" rel="nofollow">Anno Domini</a></i> (AD); in both systems the current year is 2015. The CE and AD systems both started with the year 1.<b> Neither system uses a year zero (0).</b> Common Era is abbreviated as <b>CE</b>, and is also known as <b>Current Era</b> and <b>Christian Era</b>.</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Era" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Era" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Era</a></p><p><br /></p><p><b>Year zero</b> does not exist in the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anno_Domini" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anno_Domini" rel="nofollow">Anno Domini</a> (or <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Era" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Era" rel="nofollow">Common Era</a>) system usually used to number years in the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gregorian_calendar" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gregorian_calendar" rel="nofollow">Gregorian calendar</a> and in its predecessor, the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julian_calendar" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julian_calendar" rel="nofollow">Julian calendar</a>. In this system, the year <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1_BC" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1_BC" rel="nofollow">1 BC</a> is followed by <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1" rel="nofollow">AD 1</a>. However, there is a year zero in <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astronomical_year_numbering" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astronomical_year_numbering" rel="nofollow">astronomical year numbering</a> (where it coincides with the Julian year 1 BC) and in <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_8601" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_8601" rel="nofollow">ISO 8601:2004</a> (where it coincides with the Gregorian year 1 BC) as well as in all <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhist_calendar" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhist_calendar" rel="nofollow">Buddhist</a> and <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindu_calendar" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindu_calendar" rel="nofollow">Hindu calendars</a>.</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/0_(year" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/0_(year" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/0_(year</a>)</p><p><br /></p><p><b>Astronomical year numbering</b> is based on <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anno_Domini" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anno_Domini" rel="nofollow">AD</a>/<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Era" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Era" rel="nofollow">CE</a> year numbering, but follows normal <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decimal" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decimal" rel="nofollow">decimal</a> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Integer" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Integer" rel="nofollow">integer</a> numbering more strictly. Thus, it has a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/0_(year)" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/0_(year)" rel="nofollow">year 0</a>, the years before that are designated with <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negative_number" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negative_number" rel="nofollow">negative numbers</a> and the years after that are designated with positive numbers.<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astronomical_year_numbering#cite_note-nasa-eclipses-1" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astronomical_year_numbering#cite_note-nasa-eclipses-1" rel="nofollow">[1]</a> Astronomers use the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julian_calendar" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julian_calendar" rel="nofollow">Julian calendar</a> for years before 1582, including this year 0, and the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gregorian_calendar" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gregorian_calendar" rel="nofollow">Gregorian calendar</a> for years after 1582 as exemplified by <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacques_Cassini" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacques_Cassini" rel="nofollow">Jacques Cassini</a> (1740),<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astronomical_year_numbering#cite_note-Cassini-2" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astronomical_year_numbering#cite_note-Cassini-2" rel="nofollow">[2]</a> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_Newcomb" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_Newcomb" rel="nofollow">Simon Newcomb</a> (1898)<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astronomical_year_numbering#cite_note-3" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astronomical_year_numbering#cite_note-3" rel="nofollow">[3]</a> and <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Espenak" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Espenak" rel="nofollow">Fred Espenak</a> (2007).<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astronomical_year_numbering#cite_note-Espanak-4" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astronomical_year_numbering#cite_note-Espanak-4" rel="nofollow">[4]</a></p><p>The prefix AD and the suffixes CE, BC or BCE (Common Era, Before Christ or Before Common Era) are dropped.<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astronomical_year_numbering#cite_note-nasa-eclipses-1" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astronomical_year_numbering#cite_note-nasa-eclipses-1" rel="nofollow">[1]</a> The year 1 BC/BCE is numbered 0, the year 2 BC is numbered −1, and in general the year <i>n</i> BC/BCE is numbered "−(<i>n</i> − 1)"<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astronomical_year_numbering#cite_note-nasa-eclipses-1" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astronomical_year_numbering#cite_note-nasa-eclipses-1" rel="nofollow">[1]</a> (a negative number equal to 1 − <i>n</i>). The numbers of AD/CE years are not changed and are written with either no sign or a positive sign; thus in general <i>n</i> AD/CE is simply <i>n</i> or +<i>n</i>.<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astronomical_year_numbering#cite_note-nasa-eclipses-1" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astronomical_year_numbering#cite_note-nasa-eclipses-1" rel="nofollow">[1]</a> For normal calculation a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/0_(number)" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/0_(number)" rel="nofollow">number zero</a> is often needed, here most notably when calculating the number of years in a period that spans the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epoch_(astronomy)" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epoch_(astronomy)" rel="nofollow">epoch</a>; the end years need only be subtracted from each other.</p><p>The system is so named due to its use in <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astronomy" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astronomy" rel="nofollow">astronomy</a>. Few other disciplines outside <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History" rel="nofollow">history</a> deal with the time before year 1, some exceptions being <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dendrochronology" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dendrochronology" rel="nofollow">dendrochronology</a>, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archaeology" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archaeology" rel="nofollow">archaeology</a> and <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geology" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geology" rel="nofollow">geology</a>, the latter two of which use '<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Before_Present" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Before_Present" rel="nofollow">years before the present</a>'. Although the absolute numerical values of astronomical and historical years only differ by one before year 1, this difference is critical when calculating astronomical events like <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eclipses" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eclipses" rel="nofollow">eclipses</a> or <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planetary_conjunction" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planetary_conjunction" rel="nofollow">planetary conjunctions</a> to determine when historical events which mention them occurred.</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astronomical_year_numbering" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astronomical_year_numbering" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astronomical_year_numbering</a></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>So it would appear that the year "0" is used in Astronomical year numbering for its use in astronomy. Which calendar do you follow? I pretty much follow the world standard Gregorian Calendar...<img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie2" alt=";)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="galapac, post: 2132646, member: 73406"]Ok we are going to beat a dead horse... From Wikipedia.... [B]Common Era[/B] ([B]CE[/B]) is the [URL='http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calendar']calendar[/URL] system [URL='http://simple.wiktionary.org/wiki/common']commonly[/URL] used in the [URL='http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_world']Western world[/URL] for the [URL='http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year']year[/URL] number part of a [URL='http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Date']date[/URL]. The year numbers are the same as those used for [I][URL='http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anno_Domini']Anno Domini[/URL][/I] (AD); in both systems the current year is 2015. The CE and AD systems both started with the year 1.[B] Neither system uses a year zero (0).[/B] Common Era is abbreviated as [B]CE[/B], and is also known as [B]Current Era[/B] and [B]Christian Era[/B]. [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Era[/url] [B]Year zero[/B] does not exist in the [URL='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anno_Domini']Anno Domini[/URL] (or [URL='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Era']Common Era[/URL]) system usually used to number years in the [URL='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gregorian_calendar']Gregorian calendar[/URL] and in its predecessor, the [URL='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julian_calendar']Julian calendar[/URL]. In this system, the year [URL='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1_BC']1 BC[/URL] is followed by [URL='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1']AD 1[/URL]. However, there is a year zero in [URL='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astronomical_year_numbering']astronomical year numbering[/URL] (where it coincides with the Julian year 1 BC) and in [URL='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_8601']ISO 8601:2004[/URL] (where it coincides with the Gregorian year 1 BC) as well as in all [URL='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhist_calendar']Buddhist[/URL] and [URL='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindu_calendar']Hindu calendars[/URL]. [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/0_(year[/url]) [B]Astronomical year numbering[/B] is based on [URL='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anno_Domini']AD[/URL]/[URL='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Era']CE[/URL] year numbering, but follows normal [URL='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decimal']decimal[/URL] [URL='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Integer']integer[/URL] numbering more strictly. Thus, it has a [URL='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/0_(year)']year 0[/URL], the years before that are designated with [URL='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negative_number']negative numbers[/URL] and the years after that are designated with positive numbers.[URL='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astronomical_year_numbering#cite_note-nasa-eclipses-1'][1][/URL] Astronomers use the [URL='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julian_calendar']Julian calendar[/URL] for years before 1582, including this year 0, and the [URL='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gregorian_calendar']Gregorian calendar[/URL] for years after 1582 as exemplified by [URL='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacques_Cassini']Jacques Cassini[/URL] (1740),[URL='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astronomical_year_numbering#cite_note-Cassini-2'][2][/URL] [URL='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_Newcomb']Simon Newcomb[/URL] (1898)[URL='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astronomical_year_numbering#cite_note-3'][3][/URL] and [URL='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Espenak']Fred Espenak[/URL] (2007).[URL='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astronomical_year_numbering#cite_note-Espanak-4'][4][/URL] The prefix AD and the suffixes CE, BC or BCE (Common Era, Before Christ or Before Common Era) are dropped.[URL='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astronomical_year_numbering#cite_note-nasa-eclipses-1'][1][/URL] The year 1 BC/BCE is numbered 0, the year 2 BC is numbered −1, and in general the year [I]n[/I] BC/BCE is numbered "−([I]n[/I] − 1)"[URL='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astronomical_year_numbering#cite_note-nasa-eclipses-1'][1][/URL] (a negative number equal to 1 − [I]n[/I]). The numbers of AD/CE years are not changed and are written with either no sign or a positive sign; thus in general [I]n[/I] AD/CE is simply [I]n[/I] or +[I]n[/I].[URL='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astronomical_year_numbering#cite_note-nasa-eclipses-1'][1][/URL] For normal calculation a [URL='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/0_(number)']number zero[/URL] is often needed, here most notably when calculating the number of years in a period that spans the [URL='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epoch_(astronomy)']epoch[/URL]; the end years need only be subtracted from each other. The system is so named due to its use in [URL='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astronomy']astronomy[/URL]. Few other disciplines outside [URL='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History']history[/URL] deal with the time before year 1, some exceptions being [URL='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dendrochronology']dendrochronology[/URL], [URL='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archaeology']archaeology[/URL] and [URL='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geology']geology[/URL], the latter two of which use '[URL='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Before_Present']years before the present[/URL]'. Although the absolute numerical values of astronomical and historical years only differ by one before year 1, this difference is critical when calculating astronomical events like [URL='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eclipses']eclipses[/URL] or [URL='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planetary_conjunction']planetary conjunctions[/URL] to determine when historical events which mention them occurred. [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astronomical_year_numbering[/url] So it would appear that the year "0" is used in Astronomical year numbering for its use in astronomy. Which calendar do you follow? I pretty much follow the world standard Gregorian Calendar...;)[/QUOTE]
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