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<p>[QUOTE="Insider, post: 24881888, member: 24314"]Experience/Time in is the best way to learn with the right info. Shoot for 10,000 hours as they say. I've been involved with some major dealers who have ONE YEAR OF EXPERIENCE for fifty years. Get it? As for magnification. There are some numismatists who can see more on a coin with their naked eye or a 5X hand lens than a rookie with his 100X toy! What a scope does is let you see more. The florescent light lets you see a coin's surface without glare. It is the best light to see AU/MS for anyone. Beginners should use incandescent light to see hairlines and marks the easiest. </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><b>If I said that, it was a <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie30" alt=":bucktooth:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> mistake. I never did 10-20 coins a day. No company would stay in business!</b> Furthermore, it takes just a few seconds to pop a coin under the scope to look for defects, altered surfaces, and damage. I'm not blasting you, but the general public has absolutely no idea what goes on in a grading room or the time a grader spends on a particular coin because they are not there. It also depends on the coin. Sometimes it takes several minutes to look up the correct KM# for a foreign coin I've never seen but that is something extra ICG does although it's not economical for the company. </p><p><br /></p><p>In my experience, <b>most coins can be authenticated in the blink of an eye </b>by a knowledgeable collector. Many coins (especially MS) can also be graded in the blink of an eye by a knowledgeable grader and then the grade must be confirmed in a few seconds more. It is easy to hit the adjectival grade in the blink of an eye (Fine, Very Fine, etc.) for a circulated coin but then you must break that down to a number. The time spent on a coin depends on the coin. As an experiment just now, I graded a 1972 DD cent MS-65 Red in fourteen seconds from the time I touched the flip. About five seconds of that was getting the coin ready to grade with my 7X hand lens and putting it back into the flip. Then it takes about three seconds to type the info into the computer. Eight to twelve seconds seems fast but count it out. I would bet that if you took the time to count the number of coins any grader did in a day and the time it took, the average per coin would be higher than I should attempt to guess and my experiment just now. </p><p><br /></p><p>What I may have been trying to say is I've had the luxury no to work in a sweat mill and I can spend as much time as I wish on each coin so I'll e</p><p>leave it like that. Additionally, fakes have become so good that many coins that were once authenticated in about 10 seconds under the scope now are taking many minutes. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie2" alt=";)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie3" alt=":(" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Insider, post: 24881888, member: 24314"]Experience/Time in is the best way to learn with the right info. Shoot for 10,000 hours as they say. I've been involved with some major dealers who have ONE YEAR OF EXPERIENCE for fifty years. Get it? As for magnification. There are some numismatists who can see more on a coin with their naked eye or a 5X hand lens than a rookie with his 100X toy! What a scope does is let you see more. The florescent light lets you see a coin's surface without glare. It is the best light to see AU/MS for anyone. Beginners should use incandescent light to see hairlines and marks the easiest. [B]If I said that, it was a :bucktooth: mistake. I never did 10-20 coins a day. No company would stay in business![/B] Furthermore, it takes just a few seconds to pop a coin under the scope to look for defects, altered surfaces, and damage. I'm not blasting you, but the general public has absolutely no idea what goes on in a grading room or the time a grader spends on a particular coin because they are not there. It also depends on the coin. Sometimes it takes several minutes to look up the correct KM# for a foreign coin I've never seen but that is something extra ICG does although it's not economical for the company. In my experience, [B]most coins can be authenticated in the blink of an eye [/B]by a knowledgeable collector. Many coins (especially MS) can also be graded in the blink of an eye by a knowledgeable grader and then the grade must be confirmed in a few seconds more. It is easy to hit the adjectival grade in the blink of an eye (Fine, Very Fine, etc.) for a circulated coin but then you must break that down to a number. The time spent on a coin depends on the coin. As an experiment just now, I graded a 1972 DD cent MS-65 Red in fourteen seconds from the time I touched the flip. About five seconds of that was getting the coin ready to grade with my 7X hand lens and putting it back into the flip. Then it takes about three seconds to type the info into the computer. Eight to twelve seconds seems fast but count it out. I would bet that if you took the time to count the number of coins any grader did in a day and the time it took, the average per coin would be higher than I should attempt to guess and my experiment just now. What I may have been trying to say is I've had the luxury no to work in a sweat mill and I can spend as much time as I wish on each coin so I'll e leave it like that. Additionally, fakes have become so good that many coins that were once authenticated in about 10 seconds under the scope now are taking many minutes. ;):([/QUOTE]
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