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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Insider, post: 24862018, member: 24314&quot;]Joshua Lemons, posted: &quot;The backlash on Instagram is fairly strong.&nbsp; Lots of complaints about the strictness of CAC grading. [<i><span style="color: #ff0000">I wonder how many knowledgeable numismatists post on Instagram. Therefore, out of my <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie30" alt=":bucktooth:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />ignorance I give that place very little regard</span></i>]. It seems to be a common occurrence that if you send your coins to this company, they down grade or details.&nbsp; [<i><span style="color: #ff0000">That&#039;s because they are trying to clean up the grading &quot;abuse&quot; and the sloppyness that has taken place for almost forty years! Remember, TPGS are not perfect and VINTAGE COINS IN SOME SERIES ARE RARELY W/O PROBLEMS of some kind.&nbsp; Standards have been changed, values have increased, and market acceptability has become the norm.</span></i>] I&#039;ve never understood the desire to regrade [<i><span style="color: #ff0000">It&#039;s easy.&nbsp; Some reasons: greed, changing standards, different slab, correct errors</span></i>] already graded coins, but I&#039;m not much of a gambler.&quot;</p><p><br /></p><p>Pickin and Grinin, posted:&nbsp; &quot;I am on the fence, Because there have been many an XF posted here especially early 1800&#039;s coins that have amazing eye appeal. [<i><span style="color: #ff0000">That&#039;s one of the biggest problems associated with trying to place a value on a coin with a grade.&nbsp; We can measure the loss of surface with extreme accuracy; however, eye appeal CANNOT BE MEASURED!</span></i>] It is ok to have a lower grade coin, surpass the value of a MS64, even a 65. Valuing Eye appeal I would say is a slippery slope. As a collector I would like to see a turn back to the basics. And let the buyer and dealer hash out the value of a coin.&quot; [<i><b><span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0)">Never going to happen! </span></b><span style="color: #ff0000"> &quot;They&quot; want it complicated.&nbsp; Neverthe less, a coin is an object that can be measured and described in such detail that nothing about that description should change if it is stored correctly.&nbsp; That is what we atempted to do in the beginning.&nbsp; A grade was asigned at the first authentication service </span><b><span style="color: #b30000">ONLY for the purpose of identifing that particular coin</span> </b><span style="color: #ff0000">in the future among all the rest.&nbsp; A coin&#039;s value was of no consequence - once I took a cab ride to Virginia and back to DC with a &quot;gem&quot; EXHR Saint sent in for authentication to verify its grade </span><i><span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0)">from an experienced dealer </span></i><span style="color: #ff0000">for our internal records.&nbsp; It was the first I had ever seen.</span></i>]</p><p><br /></p><p>johnmilton, posted: Having been around for over 60 years, I&#039;ll tell you what a &quot;<b><i><span style="color: #b35900">wrong grade&quot; is.</span></i></b> It&#039;s <b><i><span style="color: #b35900">when you try to sell</span></i></b> a coin for which you have paid the current going rate or which now has a value established for the grade, which <i><span style="color: #b35900"><b>all of the offers are less than 50% of what you paid</b>.</span></i> I learned those lessons the hard way, and that was one of the ways I learned to grade.&quot;</p><p><br /></p><p><span style="color: #ff0000"><i><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie11" alt=":rolleyes:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> When <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie30" alt=":bucktooth:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> I explained that his experience concerning a lower price is not related to a grade I SHOLD HAVE ADDED &quot;<b>EXCLUSIVELY</b>&quot; as very often no one is offered what they paid for their coins. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie3" alt=":(" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> </i></span></p><p><br /></p><p><i><span style="color: #ff0000">Allowing [USER=101855]@johnmilton[/USER] to post</span></i>: &quot;That is not correct. Learning who grade teaches you how to spot problems and apply the current standards so that you don’t overpay. It’s just simple and complex to learn what to avoid.&quot;</p><p><br /></p><p><i><span style="color: #ff0000">I agree, ignorant collectors get raw deals.&nbsp; They should buy only graded coins.&nbsp; Unfortunately, most are also ignorant of this too.&nbsp; That&#039;s why I suggest any member who has not ever had one of their &quot;gems&quot; graded do so in order to check yourself and the folks you buy from! </span></i>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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