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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Roerbakmix, post: 4041782, member: 100731&quot;]Well, okay. So a few months ago, I proudly showed Carolingian coin of <a href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/new-early-medieval-coin-in-the-collection-heinrich-ii.349049/" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/new-early-medieval-coin-in-the-collection-heinrich-ii.349049/">Heinrich II</a>, only to find out that it was in fact not Carolingian, but one of the earliest coins of the Holy Romain Empire. So the hunt was still one, and today I <a href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/lothair-carolingian-king-of-west-francia-my-first-carolingian-coin-this-time-for-real.354253/" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/lothair-carolingian-king-of-west-francia-my-first-carolingian-coin-this-time-for-real.354253/">posted my newest acquisition</a>: a denarius of Lothair, the Carolingian king of West Francia. The title (&quot;... my first Carolingian coin, this time for real!&quot;) suddenly became a bit ironic when [USER=56653]@seth77[/USER] pointed out that this coin was in fact probably minted under the Viscounts of Bourges and thus, again, not Carolingian. I had a good chuckle, because, well, it&#039;s is kinda ironic <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie2" alt=";)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>And also because I had this other coin delivered today. It&#039;s quite a stunner, and (probably) my prettiest Carolingian coin to date (heheh)</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1060786[/ATTACH]</p><p>CAROLINGIAN, Charles II le Chauve. Denomination: AR Denier, minted: Le Mans, France; 834-877</p><p>Obv: + GRATIA D-I REX, monogram </p><p>Rev: + CINOMANIS CIVITAS, cross in the middle</p><p>Weight: 1.7g; Ø:19mm</p><p>Catalogue: Nou.146c-Dep.559-Prou.420</p><p>Provenance: Found near Amiens, France; acq.: 01-2020</p><p>Beautiful example, wonderful and pleasant toning.</p><p><br /></p><p>And also, an obole (which is an immobilized type, i.e. minted posthumously):</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1060790[/ATTACH]</p><p>CAROLINGIAN, Charles le Simple</p><p>Denomination: AR Obole, minted: Melle, France; 898-922 (or ~ 1100)</p><p>Obv: + CΛRLV(retrograde S) REX , cross in middle</p><p>Rev: MET ALO, within dotted border</p><p>Weight: 0.65g; Ø:16mm</p><p>Catalogue: ?</p><p>Provenance: Found near Amiens, France; acq.: 01-2020</p><p>Some green deposits, struck on good metal, nicely toned with orinigal luster remaining. </p><p><br /></p><p>Okay. Of the first one, I&#039;m reasonably sure that it is, this time for sure, a real Carolingian. I hope [USER=56653]@seth77[/USER] et al agree this time. Of the latter, I&#039;m torn between Charles le Simple and Charles le Chauve, and could not find a catalogue number. A bit of help is certainly appreciated. </p><p><br /></p><p>Please, show me your coins that were not those you believed they were![/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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