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<p>[QUOTE="SuperDave, post: 2284741, member: 1892"]Contemplate this very, very carefully. Dip works by stripping metal from the coin - once it's gone, it's gone forever. And there is a level of toning - the very dark stages - where not even the most successful dip can save the coin. It's all or nothing with removing toning. You don't walk it back, you strip it away.</p><p><br /></p><p>And a given coin can only stand so many seconds in dip before it's ruined forever. Each coin differs, depending on a bazillion factors from alloy to strike to the life it's led since. In any event, it's measured in seconds. How many seconds can your coin stand? You only know if you exceed it.</p><p><br /></p><p>As a personal rule of thumb I won't employ thiourea with a coin which has progressed to showing black color anywhere on it. It's just too risky. And one more thing to consider: It's very difficult to dip a coin which is not Mint State without making it look silly. I've never succeeded, and stopped trying before I killed any more coins.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Seated especially, and to a lesser extent Barber, minor coinage has, to me, to be evaluated through a different lens than other issues with regard to surface "originality." Seated stuff circulated for decades, into the Barber era and beyond, doing the nation's work. It could change hands, and conditions, multiple times a day. And its' circulating lifetime was spent in many cases in atmospheres we'd consider to foul to live in today. Sulfuric atmospheres, from the unfiltered burning of so much coal to power industry.</p><p><br /></p><p>A coin could tone black pretty quickly in those days. Maybe some enterprising kid with a scrap of emery cloth wiped it off back in 1879, and then it circulated for fifty more years. If it was cleaned ~150 years ago, it deserves to be considered more "contemporary charm" than "scarlet letter."[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="SuperDave, post: 2284741, member: 1892"]Contemplate this very, very carefully. Dip works by stripping metal from the coin - once it's gone, it's gone forever. And there is a level of toning - the very dark stages - where not even the most successful dip can save the coin. It's all or nothing with removing toning. You don't walk it back, you strip it away. And a given coin can only stand so many seconds in dip before it's ruined forever. Each coin differs, depending on a bazillion factors from alloy to strike to the life it's led since. In any event, it's measured in seconds. How many seconds can your coin stand? You only know if you exceed it. As a personal rule of thumb I won't employ thiourea with a coin which has progressed to showing black color anywhere on it. It's just too risky. And one more thing to consider: It's very difficult to dip a coin which is not Mint State without making it look silly. I've never succeeded, and stopped trying before I killed any more coins. Seated especially, and to a lesser extent Barber, minor coinage has, to me, to be evaluated through a different lens than other issues with regard to surface "originality." Seated stuff circulated for decades, into the Barber era and beyond, doing the nation's work. It could change hands, and conditions, multiple times a day. And its' circulating lifetime was spent in many cases in atmospheres we'd consider to foul to live in today. Sulfuric atmospheres, from the unfiltered burning of so much coal to power industry. A coin could tone black pretty quickly in those days. Maybe some enterprising kid with a scrap of emery cloth wiped it off back in 1879, and then it circulated for fifty more years. If it was cleaned ~150 years ago, it deserves to be considered more "contemporary charm" than "scarlet letter."[/QUOTE]
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