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<p>[QUOTE="John Burgess, post: 6641856, member: 105098"]No idea how true it is or not, but I've heard with bulk submissions of ASEs for the tv shows and stuff, they just select like 30% of the monster box and give them 70s and the rest get 69s. I think this is a myth though LOL.</p><p>They do sell the 69s for like $60 and the 70s for like $100-$150. make a few dollars extra for a special label, ect.</p><p><br /></p><p>And worst case they can dump it all for bullion since they are getting the "dealer rate" on them from the mint anyways. I mean the bullion dealers are between $17K and 19K for a 500 coin box. so $34-$38 a coin, and a SAE in silver melt is around $25 or so an oz, so there's thousands to be made of the monster box itself before even doing grading and 69s and 70s. not sure how much they pay the mint for it in their "authorized dealer" deal, but maybe they make $9-13 each before their bulk grading deal for grading a few thousand at a time. Mint probably sell them to them for $2 over spot each. worst case, they can offload the boxes on other authorized bullion dealers for $500-$1000 more than they paid for it when the mint is backed up probably.</p><p><br /></p><p>the tv shows aren't losing in any way shape or form. like PCGS with bulk submissions, "each holdered coin will be charged a grading fee of $14. Coins that do not meet your requested minimum grade will be returned unholdered with a $2 reject fee." and set the minimum grad at 69. so as a mint "dealer" they are likely getting them around $2 above spot, so $27 each, JM bullion selling raw for $38-$40 as an example.</p><p> Home shopping getting them graded, selling for $60 or $100 depending on the grade they get, and have about $41 or so invested per coin whether it's a 69 or a 70.</p><p><br /></p><p>It's quite a racket I suppose.... with silver eagles even if they did get some that don't make the 69 cut, the dealer markups still have profit on it for the tv shows to take the chance and be into it for around $29 a SAE.</p><p><br /></p><p>I don't think they are worried at all about not getting 70s and they will get whatever they need with enough quantity submitted, and even if they didn't they still make about $6-8 more on the 69s than the bullion dealers selling raw. the 70s are just icing on the cake. and an extra $40 or more in their pockets each.</p><p><br /></p><p>worst case, they're into them for right around ungraded bullion price from the majority of the dealers, maybe they have to wait a little or sell a little cheaper than their $60 per MS69 on an "unbelievable special" and sell it for $49.99.....[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="John Burgess, post: 6641856, member: 105098"]No idea how true it is or not, but I've heard with bulk submissions of ASEs for the tv shows and stuff, they just select like 30% of the monster box and give them 70s and the rest get 69s. I think this is a myth though LOL. They do sell the 69s for like $60 and the 70s for like $100-$150. make a few dollars extra for a special label, ect. And worst case they can dump it all for bullion since they are getting the "dealer rate" on them from the mint anyways. I mean the bullion dealers are between $17K and 19K for a 500 coin box. so $34-$38 a coin, and a SAE in silver melt is around $25 or so an oz, so there's thousands to be made of the monster box itself before even doing grading and 69s and 70s. not sure how much they pay the mint for it in their "authorized dealer" deal, but maybe they make $9-13 each before their bulk grading deal for grading a few thousand at a time. Mint probably sell them to them for $2 over spot each. worst case, they can offload the boxes on other authorized bullion dealers for $500-$1000 more than they paid for it when the mint is backed up probably. the tv shows aren't losing in any way shape or form. like PCGS with bulk submissions, "each holdered coin will be charged a grading fee of $14. Coins that do not meet your requested minimum grade will be returned unholdered with a $2 reject fee." and set the minimum grad at 69. so as a mint "dealer" they are likely getting them around $2 above spot, so $27 each, JM bullion selling raw for $38-$40 as an example. Home shopping getting them graded, selling for $60 or $100 depending on the grade they get, and have about $41 or so invested per coin whether it's a 69 or a 70. It's quite a racket I suppose.... with silver eagles even if they did get some that don't make the 69 cut, the dealer markups still have profit on it for the tv shows to take the chance and be into it for around $29 a SAE. I don't think they are worried at all about not getting 70s and they will get whatever they need with enough quantity submitted, and even if they didn't they still make about $6-8 more on the 69s than the bullion dealers selling raw. the 70s are just icing on the cake. and an extra $40 or more in their pockets each. worst case, they're into them for right around ungraded bullion price from the majority of the dealers, maybe they have to wait a little or sell a little cheaper than their $60 per MS69 on an "unbelievable special" and sell it for $49.99.....[/QUOTE]
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