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<p>[QUOTE="kaparthy, post: 3331702, member: 57463"]I thought about that when I created the thread. And I do have a couple of "others" myself. For that matter, the definition of "ancient" includes anything up to the fall of Constatinople in 1453. And like the "fall" of Rome 1000 years earlier, it may be putative as well.</p><p><br /></p><p>My choices were intended to create a representative array, each one of which was evidence of some important aspect.</p><p><br /></p><p>1. Miletus 1/12 stater electrum c. 550 BCE.</p><p>Early, event-horizon coin near the creation of the medium in electrum from which evolved coins in silver</p><p>2. Miletus 1/12 stater silver c. 550 BCE.</p><p>and gold.</p><p>Miletus was important because it was from there that philosophy came to Athens. In the mid-500s, philosophy replaced religion for explanation of natural events, and eventually human conduct. (What we call "the Socratic method" they called "the Milesian way.") Coins replaced cows. Merchants replaced farmers. Democracy replaced monarchy. Writing replaced public speaking. Mercenary hoplites replaced conscripted commoners. It was a long process and not complete or untextured, but still a watershed in the evolution of civilization.</p><p><br /></p><p>3. Abdera hemi-obol c. 480 BCE</p><p>Small silver from the time before bronze coins, also from the time and town of Democritus. As Carl Sagan said, "He was from the Brooklyn of his day and he was no dummy."</p><p><br /></p><p>4. Athens Owl c. 450 BCE</p><p>I will not go on at length.</p><p><br /></p><p>5. Sinope "Diogenes" stater c. 400 BCE</p><p>This is a coin that I believe that I can identify with the philosopher.</p><p>[ATTACH]882866[/ATTACH] [ATTACH]882867[/ATTACH]</p><p>6. Alexander stater c. 300 BCE</p><p>Again, much could be said.</p><p><br /></p><p>7. Rhodes drachmon c. 280 BCE</p><p>They policed the eastern Mediterranean and made a business out of fighting pirates. Rhodes became an entrepôt. It was a center for learning, especially mathematics and astronomy. The geographers of Alexandria ran their Prime Meridian through Rhodes. Even after it was reduced by Rome, it was a center for learning. Julius Caesar was one of many who studied law there.</p><p><br /></p><p>8. Rome Mercury/Prow Sextens c. 211 BCE</p><p>Bronze. The Romans were practical and started with bronze money. I have many Mercury coins. Mercury was identified with the Greek Hermes and the Egyptian Thoth, but actually was inherited from the Etruscans. We still have an <b>inauguration</b> of our President, which was when the Romans brought Etruscan augurs to read entrails and predict good things to come.</p><p><br /></p><p>9. Rome Cato the Younger Quinarius</p><p>Eloquent republican narrative goes here...</p><p><br /></p><p>10. Rome Hadrian denarius</p><p>11. Rome Marcus Aurelius Sestertius</p><p>I actually chose these two from among the Five Good Emperors of the Pax Romana, and again, a bronze coin.</p><p><br /></p><p>12. Rome Julian the Apostate AE</p><p>Concluding with Roman bronze and a failed attempt to return to "that olde tyme religione" thus, closing the ancient world and opening the door to the Middle Ages, culturally.</p><p><br /></p><p>I could go on and on... but that's my story and I'm sticking to it.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="kaparthy, post: 3331702, member: 57463"]I thought about that when I created the thread. And I do have a couple of "others" myself. For that matter, the definition of "ancient" includes anything up to the fall of Constatinople in 1453. And like the "fall" of Rome 1000 years earlier, it may be putative as well. My choices were intended to create a representative array, each one of which was evidence of some important aspect. 1. Miletus 1/12 stater electrum c. 550 BCE. Early, event-horizon coin near the creation of the medium in electrum from which evolved coins in silver 2. Miletus 1/12 stater silver c. 550 BCE. and gold. Miletus was important because it was from there that philosophy came to Athens. In the mid-500s, philosophy replaced religion for explanation of natural events, and eventually human conduct. (What we call "the Socratic method" they called "the Milesian way.") Coins replaced cows. Merchants replaced farmers. Democracy replaced monarchy. Writing replaced public speaking. Mercenary hoplites replaced conscripted commoners. It was a long process and not complete or untextured, but still a watershed in the evolution of civilization. 3. Abdera hemi-obol c. 480 BCE Small silver from the time before bronze coins, also from the time and town of Democritus. As Carl Sagan said, "He was from the Brooklyn of his day and he was no dummy." 4. Athens Owl c. 450 BCE I will not go on at length. 5. Sinope "Diogenes" stater c. 400 BCE This is a coin that I believe that I can identify with the philosopher. [ATTACH]882866[/ATTACH] [ATTACH]882867[/ATTACH] 6. Alexander stater c. 300 BCE Again, much could be said. 7. Rhodes drachmon c. 280 BCE They policed the eastern Mediterranean and made a business out of fighting pirates. Rhodes became an entrepôt. It was a center for learning, especially mathematics and astronomy. The geographers of Alexandria ran their Prime Meridian through Rhodes. Even after it was reduced by Rome, it was a center for learning. Julius Caesar was one of many who studied law there. 8. Rome Mercury/Prow Sextens c. 211 BCE Bronze. The Romans were practical and started with bronze money. I have many Mercury coins. Mercury was identified with the Greek Hermes and the Egyptian Thoth, but actually was inherited from the Etruscans. We still have an [B]inauguration[/B] of our President, which was when the Romans brought Etruscan augurs to read entrails and predict good things to come. 9. Rome Cato the Younger Quinarius Eloquent republican narrative goes here... 10. Rome Hadrian denarius 11. Rome Marcus Aurelius Sestertius I actually chose these two from among the Five Good Emperors of the Pax Romana, and again, a bronze coin. 12. Rome Julian the Apostate AE Concluding with Roman bronze and a failed attempt to return to "that olde tyme religione" thus, closing the ancient world and opening the door to the Middle Ages, culturally. I could go on and on... but that's my story and I'm sticking to it.[/QUOTE]
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