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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;GDJMSP, post: 2038888, member: 112&quot;]And I gladly would if I was. But as Roger points out, I am not. Cleaning a die and or retouching a die is not the same thing as polishing a die. Cleaning a die or retouching can create scratches on the die, and scratches on the die result in raised lines on the coins they strike. And that is how raised lines can appear on the devices of a coin. Tool marks can also create raised lines on a die, but tool marks are not the result of polishing the die either.</p><p><br /></p><p>And that is the entire point. There are several completely different processes that can create lines on a die, which in turn create raised lines on a coin. But they are all different processes and not die polishing. Dies are polished by machine, not by hand. And the flat disk that does the polishing is incapable of even touching the devices on a coin, so there can never be die polish lines on the devices of a coin. It&#039;s physically impossible. And the polishing method is also why die polish lines cannot criss cross.</p><p><br /></p><p>Yes, there can easily be raised lines on a coin that do criss cross. My point is that if there are, then those that do criss cross were not created by the die being polished, but instead created by other processes done to the die in addition to the die being polished. Die polish lines in and of themselves cannot criss cross..</p><p><br /></p><p>And as you point out, just as I have done many. many times, you can and often do find die polish lines, die scratches, tool marks, hairlines on the coin, scratches on the coin, - and all on the same coin. </p><p><br /></p><p>The mistake being made is one of terminology for most people call all of these lines die polish lines - when they are not all die polish lines at all. But instead lines with several different causes. It is also extremely common for the TPGs to do pretty much the same thing and cleanly grade coins that for obvious reasons have lines on them that were not caused by die polishing. And they get away with doing this because they know the majority of people will accept it because that is what the people want. They want their coins cleanly graded. And they also know that most people do not know the truth about the many different things that cause the lines on coins. Those two things combined allow them to get away with doing what they do.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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