Cast Chinese coins

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by britannia40, Jul 18, 2018.

  1. britannia40

    britannia40 Well-Known Member

    I got these yesterday. I like the style. Is anyone on here good with Chinese cast coins I have very little knowledge of them.

    from Five Dynasties and Ten Kingdoms Period. After Tang Dynasty I believe.
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    Knife is spring and autumn dynasty. 770-221 BC I believe
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    Its ashame about the crack...
     
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  3. Deacon Ray

    Deacon Ray Artist & Historian Supporter

    Interesting coins and artifacts, @britannia40 ! I know absolutely nothing about them but we have several very knowledgeable forum members in coins of ancient China. Perhaps, @Loong Siew , @Ken Dorney , or @TypeCoin971793 could advise you.
     
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  4. britannia40

    britannia40 Well-Known Member

    Thanks Ray. I know alot about Chinese minted coins but cast coins I have no experience.

    Chris
     
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  5. Loong Siew

    Loong Siew Well-Known Member

    Hi @britannia40 .. the cracked coin belonged to the Xin Dynasty which was an interregnum by the usurper Wang Mang. It has a face value of 500 shaped like a knife.
     
  6. Severus Alexander

    Severus Alexander find me at NumisForums

    The first one purports to be a coin of the Southern Tang kingdom (937-75), Emperor Yuan Zu, 943-61, Hartill 15.77. Bao Da yuan bao, with Tian on the reverse. Except it normally comes in iron... extremely rare in bronze, according to Hartill.

    Did you get these on ebay? I would have serious doubts about their authenticity. :(
     
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  7. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

    For the first one, I am not familiar with it, so my opinion would be pretty worthless. I will point out that the strokes are fat and have a rounded appearance to them. I do not know if this is typical for the type, but I know that this is not typical for the era. That makes me think it is fake.

    The Wang Mang knife I am very familiar with, and my gut said fake despite the break. Those colors in the patina almost always are red flags. The style also seems a bit off with the rims and the characters on the blade.

    Here’s my example of a similar coin:

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  8. britannia40

    britannia40 Well-Known Member

    No I didn't get them on Ebay but thru a freind. Thanks for the help.
     
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  9. britannia40

    britannia40 Well-Known Member

    Thanks for the help everyone.
     
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