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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Curtis, post: 8237758, member: 26430&quot;]Caria, Uncertain is quite the frequent attribution. Koray Konuk has written about a lot of the Carian mints and a lot of the uncertain coins. I don&#039;t recall whether these double-bull foreparts / bulls specifically are included in any of his papers, but I&#039;d be surprised if not. (If I recall correctly, he may have cataloged SNG Kayhan, and is at least partly responsible for HNO (Caria): <a href="http://hno.huma-num.fr/" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://hno.huma-num.fr/" rel="nofollow">http://hno.huma-num.fr/</a> )</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="https://cnrs.academia.edu/KorayKonuk" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://cnrs.academia.edu/KorayKonuk" rel="nofollow">Koray Konuk</a>&#039;s Academia.edu page has a number of his texts avail. re: coinage of Caria, the Hekatominds, and Asia Minor.</p><p><br /></p><p>One type that interests me are the tiny coins with the ram obverse and male head reverse. I love the tiny coins. And I also love the scholarly debate surrounding the coin. (The &quot;question marks&quot; are where the interesting stuff is.)</p><p><br /></p><p>It&#039;s not my tiniest coin, but I have none tinier with more detail (I should have left/right switched here, ram is obv.):</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1449546[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1449547[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><blockquote><p><b>Hekatomnos, Satrap of Caria. AR Hemitetartemorion </b>(Milesian standard, 4mm, 0.12g).</p><p>Uncertain mint (Kasolaba?), c. 392-377 BCE.</p><p><b>Obv:</b> Head of ram right.</p><p><b>Rev:</b> Head of young male right. ΕΚ to right (for Hekatomnos?).</p><p><b>References:</b> HNO Caria 1922 (as Kasolaba); SNG Keckman 867; SNG Kayhan II, 1674; Konuk, Kasolaba 14 (as Kasolaba); Konuk, Identities 7 (as Mylasa?).</p><p><b>Published (online)</b>: <a href="http://hno.huma-num.fr/browse?idType=1922" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://hno.huma-num.fr/browse?idType=1922" rel="nofollow">Historia Numorum (Caria) Online n° 1922 (temporary) 1922</a> (this coin = example 3).</p><p><b>Provenance:</b> Ex-Elvira Clain-Stefanelli (1914-2001) Collection (possibly also Vladimir&#039;s [1914-1982]), previously known as “The Demarete Collection&quot; (Stack&#039;s Bowers); Ex-<a href="https://www.numisbids.com/n.php?p=lot&amp;sid=5039&amp;lot=81" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.numisbids.com/n.php?p=lot&amp;sid=5039&amp;lot=81" rel="nofollow">Naville Auction 68 (3 October 2021), Lot 81</a>.</p></blockquote><p><br /></p><p>Similar types have been identified as municipal and Satrapal issues (of Hekatomnos or perhaps even King Abdemon in Cyprus) and assigned to numerous mints in Troas (Kebren), Cyprus (Salamis). Konuk recently interpreted the &quot;EK&quot; as referring to Hekatomnos. He has assigned this or similar variants to at least three different mints in Caria recent decades (Halikarnassos, Kasolaba, and Mylasa).</p><p><br /></p><p>Further complicating things, various denominations have been labeled as hemitetartemoria (like mine), tetartemoria, hemiobols, obols, and intermediate denominations such as tritetartemoria, and alternative classifications such as&nbsp; 1/24th Siglos and 1/12th Siglos. Different-sized coins are often confused both in commerce and scholarly literature, as types that may have genuinely been struck at different mints or in different periods but have similar imagery.</p><p><br /></p><p>My &quot;large&quot; one is a Hemiobol (8mm, 0.40g); for type: <a href="http://hno.huma-num.fr/browse?idType=945" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://hno.huma-num.fr/browse?idType=945" rel="nofollow">HNO 945</a>, same dies as SNG Keckman I, 879 = HNO 945, ex 13 (<a href="http://hno.huma-num.fr/browse?fotosType=945" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://hno.huma-num.fr/browse?fotosType=945" rel="nofollow">photos</a>).&nbsp; It&#039;s hard to see but it has the characters (&nbsp; - ?) that Konuk ID&#039;s as the ethnic for Kasolaba (oops, got obv/rev switched again):</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1449548[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1449550[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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