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<p>[QUOTE="Curtis, post: 8245119, member: 26430"]I think so. I just happened to be looking up similar types in Historia Numorum Online last night when I saw a similar one (horse right) for sale at Forum. I don't know the research literature on which the attribution was ultimately based, but all these Horse / Trident-with-"S"-shapes coins seem to be attributed to Mylasa. (There's only one left one: <b>N°:</b> <a href="http://hno.huma-num.fr/browse?idType=321" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://hno.huma-num.fr/browse?idType=321" rel="nofollow">321</a> ; but a bunch of right ones: <b>N°:</b> <a href="http://hno.huma-num.fr/browse?idType=319" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://hno.huma-num.fr/browse?idType=319" rel="nofollow">319</a> ; <b>N°:</b> <a href="http://hno.huma-num.fr/browse?idType=320" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://hno.huma-num.fr/browse?idType=320" rel="nofollow">320</a> ; <b>N°:</b> <a href="http://hno.huma-num.fr/browse?idType=734" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://hno.huma-num.fr/browse?idType=734" rel="nofollow">734</a> ; <b>N°:</b> <a href="http://hno.huma-num.fr/browse?idType=1127" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://hno.huma-num.fr/browse?idType=1127" rel="nofollow">1127</a> ; <b>N°:</b> <a href="http://hno.huma-num.fr/browse?idType=1128" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://hno.huma-num.fr/browse?idType=1128" rel="nofollow">1128</a> ; <b>N°:</b> <a href="http://hno.huma-num.fr/browse?idType=1355" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://hno.huma-num.fr/browse?idType=1355" rel="nofollow">1355</a> ).</p><p><br /></p><p>But attributions to Carian mints do seem to be particularly contested! We had a recent thread on <a href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/caria-uncertain-mint.393725/" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/caria-uncertain-mint.393725/">Caria, Uncertain</a>.</p><p><br /></p><p>A favorite little bronze coin (only 10mm, 1.16g) of mine from Mylasa (?) was interesting to me for this specimen's role in the controversy over its type's attribution:</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1451872[/ATTACH]</p><p><i>PHOTO Credit: <a href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=8100924" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=8100924" rel="nofollow">Leu WA 16 (Slg. Vogl)</a></i></p><p><br /></p><p>It's the example from the Erich Karl Collection who identified it as Caria, Mygissos. Translating from German, <a href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=339105" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=339105" rel="nofollow">the catalog (Lanz 131, lot 246)</a> stated:</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Mygissos, Myndos, Mylasa, Myous, Myrina... they actually left one out Nisyros!</p><p><br /></p><p>It was later in the <a href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=2223860" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=2223860" rel="nofollow">P.R. Franke (Grün 64)</a> and <a href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=8100924" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=8100924" rel="nofollow">P. Vogl (Leu WA 16) collections</a>, both of which sales identified it as Mylasa -- the usual ID.</p><p><br /></p><p>(When E. Karl originally bought it from</p><p>Kölner Münzkabinett <a href="http://koelner-muenzkabinett.de/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/KMK-A49.pdf" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://koelner-muenzkabinett.de/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/KMK-A49.pdf" rel="nofollow">Auktion 49</a> [30-31 Oct 1989], Lot 27, it was identified as Caria, Myndos!)</p><p><br /></p><p>It is specimen number one in <a href="http://hno.huma-num.fr/browse?idType=1833" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://hno.huma-num.fr/browse?idType=1833" rel="nofollow"><b>Historia Numorum Online Temp N. 1883.1</b></a> (no. 7 is the "plate coin")[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Curtis, post: 8245119, member: 26430"]I think so. I just happened to be looking up similar types in Historia Numorum Online last night when I saw a similar one (horse right) for sale at Forum. I don't know the research literature on which the attribution was ultimately based, but all these Horse / Trident-with-"S"-shapes coins seem to be attributed to Mylasa. (There's only one left one: [B]N°:[/B] [URL='http://hno.huma-num.fr/browse?idType=321']321[/URL] ; but a bunch of right ones: [B]N°:[/B] [URL='http://hno.huma-num.fr/browse?idType=319']319[/URL] ; [B]N°:[/B] [URL='http://hno.huma-num.fr/browse?idType=320']320[/URL] ; [B]N°:[/B] [URL='http://hno.huma-num.fr/browse?idType=734']734[/URL] ; [B]N°:[/B] [URL='http://hno.huma-num.fr/browse?idType=1127']1127[/URL] ; [B]N°:[/B] [URL='http://hno.huma-num.fr/browse?idType=1128']1128[/URL] ; [B]N°:[/B] [URL='http://hno.huma-num.fr/browse?idType=1355']1355[/URL] ). But attributions to Carian mints do seem to be particularly contested! We had a recent thread on [URL='https://www.cointalk.com/threads/caria-uncertain-mint.393725/']Caria, Uncertain[/URL]. A favorite little bronze coin (only 10mm, 1.16g) of mine from Mylasa (?) was interesting to me for this specimen's role in the controversy over its type's attribution: [ATTACH=full]1451872[/ATTACH] [I]PHOTO Credit: [URL='https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=8100924']Leu WA 16 (Slg. Vogl)[/URL][/I] It's the example from the Erich Karl Collection who identified it as Caria, Mygissos. Translating from German, [URL='https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=339105']the catalog (Lanz 131, lot 246)[/URL] stated: Mygissos, Myndos, Mylasa, Myous, Myrina... they actually left one out Nisyros! It was later in the [URL='https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=2223860']P.R. Franke (Grün 64)[/URL] and [URL='https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=8100924']P. Vogl (Leu WA 16) collections[/URL], both of which sales identified it as Mylasa -- the usual ID. (When E. Karl originally bought it from Kölner Münzkabinett [URL='http://koelner-muenzkabinett.de/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/KMK-A49.pdf']Auktion 49[/URL] [30-31 Oct 1989], Lot 27, it was identified as Caria, Myndos!) It is specimen number one in [URL='http://hno.huma-num.fr/browse?idType=1833'][B]Historia Numorum Online Temp N. 1883.1[/B][/URL] (no. 7 is the "plate coin")[/QUOTE]
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