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<p>[QUOTE="Orange Julius, post: 7952331, member: 77226"]So I recently picked up a cheap snack from the Bay.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1377878[/ATTACH]</p><p>The coin was attributed as a young-ish, post child but pre-beard Caracalla. After a bit of poking around I found the same coin on acsearch sold by CNG attributed also as:</p><p><br /></p><p>Ob: M AYΡ ANTΩNINOC AVΓ</p><p>BITHYNIA, Nicaea. Caracalla. AD 198-217. Æ 22mm (6.01 g). Laureate bust right, slight drapery on left shoulder / NI-KA/I-EΩN, hexastyle temple. RG pg. 458, 475; BMC Pontus pg. 164, 79 var. (obverse legend); SNG Copenhagen -; SNG von Aulock -. VF, dark green and black patina, some minor roughness on the reverse.</p><p>From the Garth R. Drewry Collection.</p><p><a href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=360802" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=360802" rel="nofollow">https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=360802</a></p><p><br /></p><p>However after some further searching in addition to some other coins attributed to Caracalla, I started coming across coins (both identical and just from the same obverse die) as attributed to Elagabalus.</p><p><br /></p><p><b>Caracalla (Same obverse die but different reverse die):</b></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1377907[/ATTACH]</p><p><a href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=1543372" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=1543372" rel="nofollow">https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=1543372</a></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1377908[/ATTACH]</p><p><a href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=992486" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=992486" rel="nofollow">https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=992486</a></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1377910[/ATTACH]</p><p><a href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=226563" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=226563" rel="nofollow">https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=226563</a></p><p><br /></p><p><b>Elagabalus (Similar.. either die match or close):</b></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1377912[/ATTACH]</p><p><a href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=3344605" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=3344605" rel="nofollow">https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=3344605</a></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1377911[/ATTACH]</p><p><a href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=4604670" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=4604670" rel="nofollow">https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=4604670</a></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1377909[/ATTACH]</p><p><a href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=456760" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=456760" rel="nofollow">https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=456760</a></p><p><br /></p><p>So... teen-ish Caracalla or late Elagabalus? In addition.. lets see your toss up Caracalla/Elagabalus coins.</p><p><br /></p><p>Edit: Notice the pellets on the well preserved examples at the beginning and end of the obverse legend... you can just barely see them on mine.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Orange Julius, post: 7952331, member: 77226"]So I recently picked up a cheap snack from the Bay. [ATTACH=full]1377878[/ATTACH] The coin was attributed as a young-ish, post child but pre-beard Caracalla. After a bit of poking around I found the same coin on acsearch sold by CNG attributed also as: Ob: M AYΡ ANTΩNINOC AVΓ BITHYNIA, Nicaea. Caracalla. AD 198-217. Æ 22mm (6.01 g). Laureate bust right, slight drapery on left shoulder / NI-KA/I-EΩN, hexastyle temple. RG pg. 458, 475; BMC Pontus pg. 164, 79 var. (obverse legend); SNG Copenhagen -; SNG von Aulock -. VF, dark green and black patina, some minor roughness on the reverse. From the Garth R. Drewry Collection. [URL]https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=360802[/URL] However after some further searching in addition to some other coins attributed to Caracalla, I started coming across coins (both identical and just from the same obverse die) as attributed to Elagabalus. [B]Caracalla (Same obverse die but different reverse die):[/B] [ATTACH=full]1377907[/ATTACH] [URL]https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=1543372[/URL] [ATTACH=full]1377908[/ATTACH] [URL]https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=992486[/URL] [ATTACH=full]1377910[/ATTACH] [URL]https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=226563[/URL] [B]Elagabalus (Similar.. either die match or close):[/B] [ATTACH=full]1377912[/ATTACH] [URL]https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=3344605[/URL] [ATTACH=full]1377911[/ATTACH] [URL]https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=4604670[/URL] [ATTACH=full]1377909[/ATTACH] [URL]https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=456760[/URL] So... teen-ish Caracalla or late Elagabalus? In addition.. lets see your toss up Caracalla/Elagabalus coins. Edit: Notice the pellets on the well preserved examples at the beginning and end of the obverse legend... you can just barely see them on mine.[/QUOTE]
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