Capt. Obvious

Then do not read any thread with eBay in it. Do not blame "us" for wasting your time. Apparently a lot of "us" enjoy such threads. One of the advantage of the internet is that someone else cannot tell "us" not to or to read just what they want "us" to see. God forbid that someone tries to change that.

 

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then OBVIOUSLY you should read other threads, and see what the coin fanatics here have to say.. rather than just reading the ebay ones...
Take a couple days to read topics other than ebay ones. And I assure you, any doubt you have on their knowledge will be tore down.

 

BTW, of the last 25 threads on here right now, 22 have nothing to do with eBay, 2 are eBay threads and the last is this one - whatever class you wish to put it in.

 

It takes a bit of "knowledge" to identify scams on Ebay. If knowledge isn't shared, it's pointless. And, the knowledge gained in pointing out sheisters online will benefit all those who purchase from them in the future. Excuse us for wanting to zoom in on the many scams crooks have to offer and heed the warnings that may save others countless dollars...and lessons.
Guy~

 

a telephone is used to transmit voice data and is capable of duplex transmissions (send and receive at the same time).

the internet consists of interconnected data networks that transmit and receive data packets through a variety of infrastructures. the data can be anything.

-Steve

 

you have missed the point. trolling the forum with finger point for entertainment is not the same as highlighting for education.

it's the difference between "Ow My Nuts" and "Frontline"

-Steve

 

Learning Experience

I've learned a lot from this type of post. I''ve never been a serious collector and some of the defects on the coins aren't obvious to me.

 

There we go.. DONE this topic should be locked.. mbynack said it how it is.. These topics have helped him how to determine if a coin is a fake..
no more guessing if it helps people or not..
He is a collector, part time collector if you may, that doesn't pour his whole day into collecting like others.. Therefor these topics have helped him.. Its not because people have been trusting sellers, its because they dont have the time that the mods or "the higher ups:kewl:" have to ponder over coins, and learn how to identify fakes..

 

which ones, the "look at this coin, lol" or the "look at this coin, here's the problem"

????

-steve

 

I use eBay extensively to buy coins, and my technique is straightforward. When I look at an item I have an interest in buying, I compare the minimum bid with the "Ask" price in the Graysheet, and if it's within reason, I'll go ahead and bid on it. If it's too high, then I'll pass.

People will always try to misrepresent things they're trying to sell. It's up to buyers to evaluate seller's claims and use available pricing data to decide for themselves whether to buy or to pass. This applies to coins, used cars, houses, and most anything else.

 

A comparison is something that is similar. Were it identical, it would not be a comparison. Because they are similar, but not identical is exactly why it is a valid comparison.

NO! You missed my point. The internet is not______ (fill in the blank as you desire). It is whatever I or anyone else wishes it to be. Because you have a different idea than I does not mean that anything should be changed to suit either of us. Because you wish to know how many denticles are on a coin does not mean that I should not be able to read about another deadbeat eBay seller - if that is my desire - and vice versa.

 

How about this ebay auction:








(just kidding!)

 

rlm has a good point. And to add on I like the ebay threads, not all are bad and in some cases people point out why it is not a bad ormis-represented auction. And if the internet did not exist I would be limited to very few dealers and some people would not have any dealers around them. In this case I like the internet. As for what would people do if the internet did not exist - buy anyway with out buying books. At least with the internet they can post and be anonymous - that is why we need to be more patient with first time posters, and not then the will not feel foolish for posting a fake coin.

 

There are now 10 different repliers to your post. So far as I can tell, not one of them agrees with so much as a single point you have tried to make. Maybe that should give you a hint.

 

asciibaron,

I know that it has been said before but if you do not value the posts and threads about eBay, then don't read them! Don't try to dictate what others should or should not post and what others should or should not read. We live in a free Country and have freedom of choice and can decide for ourselves what is appropriate to post and what to read and you can do the same thing! You can even start a Thread about a certain Seller's eBay Auction of which you were the victim of and we will read the Thread, give our sympathy and even offer advice on what to do to get your money back. However, if by pressing the issue, you were to get these type of threads and posts banned from Coin Talk, well then you are on your own to wallow in your misery if you ever get burned by an eBay Seller's Auction!

From the tangent that you have been making over eBay Auction and Seller bashing, I get the feeling that you are trying to protect your bottom line! If you are not a Stockholder in eBay or make most or all of your living off of eBay sales, then I am sorry for bringing it up!

This is all I have and will say on this matter!


Frank

 

Make that 11. I love reading the ebay posts, and as pointed out before, they are a learning tool for many. I would imagine that while only 10-20 people reply, a hundred or so read it and likely learn from it. Is that not what it is all about?

Also, as others have pointed out, do not read them if they are of no interest to you.:hammer:

 

Oh, and if you do not like the content here, there are many other coin forums available to you.

 

#12

 

Well, I'm not gonna pile on and kick the OP just because he has a differing opinion than the majority. I think his comments have some merit. As he stated, some have posted eBay coin auctions claiming the coin(s) to be counterfeit when they were not. I think the OP's point was that there is really no need to post any and every eBay coin auction that looks the least bit questionable. It gets to be overkill after a while.

That said, I do think it is beneficial, especially to beginner collectors and those not familar with scams, over-graded coins, counterfeits, etc., to see these auctions so they will be less likely to be taken in by one.

The count remains at 12.

 

I guess I am lucky # 13. I for one have learned a ton from the links to less than honest eBay auctions. I wasn't looking to buy any of those auctions, but I can now feel more prepared if I ever do go to buy something on eBay. The reality is there are many lurkers on here that do not post, but they do read those eBay warnings and because of that might avoid overpaying for an over graded coin in the future.

Great example is a guy selling some Morgan silver dollars here locally on craigslist. They are graded MS67 by SGS. Even though I have never attempted to buy an SGS coin (nor did I know what that was until I recently joined this forum), I now know to stay away from them as they over grade their coins.