Capped bust half dollar grade opinion

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by dbc99, Aug 1, 2020.

  1. longshot

    longshot Enthusiast Supporter

    I believe it is because, due to the method of manufacture, there is noticeable variance in diameter on CBH's. Even with the foam rings some coins are a bit loose and others are almost too tight.
    There is a reason the red book gives the diameter as approx.
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  3. dbc99

    dbc99 Active Member

    Cool, thanks for the info, everyone.
    I'm curious though, in general, how do such old silver coins persist without tarnishing in a similar fashion? Careful preservation in low sunlight and oxygen environments? Seems like that would be a pretty small population for circulating coins like these.

    Also, how do folks around here typically store these ungraded coins? 2x2s are nice if you're storing in an album, but sketchy otherwise as the staples might inadvertently scratch the coins if they're just stored in a bag. I've only used airtites for bullion coins so far.
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  4. JeffC

    JeffC Go explore something and think a happy thought!

    Oh really? That's interesting. I had assumed that capsules for the Barber Half will also bit my Capped Bust Half. But they didn't fit by a hair. So I had to make do with scotch tape along the sides. See... 20200801_210317.jpg
  5. JeffC

    JeffC Go explore something and think a happy thought!

    You might consider DIY slabs or airtite capsules to hold them. By the way, yours is VERY nice!
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  6. longshot

    longshot Enthusiast Supporter

    Capped bust halves should be toned IMO. Yours is attractive, yet the appearance isn't quite right for a 100% original AU half. As mentioned, many have been cleaned at some point.
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  7. longshot

    longshot Enthusiast Supporter

    I just store most of mine in non-pvc flips. But yours is nice enough to rate an airtite in my opinion.
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  8. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    The difference is - the Barber half was struck with a "closed collar." Note the reeding around the edge - the reeding is struck as part of the coin. Every single coin will be the exact same diameter.

    However, before the implementation of the closed collar press, coins were struck in an "open collar." That is, there wasn't really anything holding the coin in and it just spread out as far as it could when it was struck. That is one reason why strike differences are so prominent between different varieties. Every single coin struck in the early mint was just ever-so-slightly different. It wasn't until 1836 when the closed collar presses were deployed.

    And... holy geez, get rid of that scotch tape immediately! Tape has a host of volatile chemicals and residues, and being in close contact with your coin (especially inside a capsule) that's a recipe for disaster when those chemicals react with your coin. Use almost anything else, but get rid of the tape now! (saran wrap, being a food safe plastic, won't emit harsh chemicals)
  9. JeffC

    JeffC Go explore something and think a happy thought!

    Thank you for all that information! I really appreciate it. What a wealth of information. Appreciate your taking the time to explain in such detail. And as for the tape, I had thought it wouldn't do much harm since the seams of both top and bottom capsules are in tight contact, but I've just removed them. Lol.

    Edited: The capsules aren't tight. What am I saying? Sometimes, I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed.
  10. micbraun

    micbraun coindiccted has direct-fit capsules and “Everslab” self-slabs in all sizes. You’ll need slabs with 33mm inserts for Bust halves.
    You can find them on eBay too, search for “everslab lighthouse 33mm”.
  11. JeffC

    JeffC Go explore something and think a happy thought!

    Thanks for your suggestions. Appreciate them. Well, my very frustrating quest continues. I can't do slabs because the encapsulated coin has to sit in a circular pre-drilled opening within a presentation case that houses other 19th century American coins. As for the 33mm capsules, that's what I have now. It doesn't fit by a hair. I suppose I have to create something with 3D printing... when I find someone who provides that service.
  12. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

    The surface looks altered, but she might straight grade as an XF
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