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<p>[QUOTE="EWC3, post: 4583970, member: 93416"]Many thanks for the clarification. It seems to me that Mayhew here is - in general terms - completely rejecting the sort of theory that lay behind Butcher 1990 (and perhaps to some extent Harl 1996) concerning the silver issues of the eastern Roman satellites. I suppose Mayhew has in mind things like what happened to UK silver coin from around 1870. World silver bullion values dropped from about 1 : 16 against gold to about 1 : 35 as I best recall – but it had no effect at all on the value of UK silver coin against gold……..</p><p><br /></p><p>I have a bunch of problems with understanding silver issues of the eastern Roman satellites – in part I never handled many of these coins – but also I never came across a reference work that gave a clear simple illustrative account of the Eastern "Greek Imperial" silver either. Meanwhile most of what has been written over the last 40 years plus seems professionally mannered, contradictory, and behind pay walls of various sorts.</p><p><br /></p><p>Back in 1990 Howgego was clear that the "Attalid Cistopherus" weighed 3 attic drachms but was worth 4 attic drachms. His evidence inferred from countermarks (!). We also have Harl in 1996 saying the "The Cistopherus" was worth 3 denarii under Augustus, and later 4 denarii under Hadrian. But this not backed up by any ‘primary’ sources at all as far as I can see – and seems to be largely based upon the sort of silver value data Mayhew tends to reject.</p><p><br /></p><p>Part of the confusion for myself began with the way Sear put so much emphasis on the copper coinage back in 1982, at the expense of explaining the silver. Interesting to contrast that with the way Steve Album catalogued the coinage of roughly the same area for the later medieval period in his Checklist (Ilkhans, Timurids, Ottomans). There the many diverse copper issues were virtually ignored in order to focus on explaining the silver.</p><p><br /></p><p>Rob T[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="EWC3, post: 4583970, member: 93416"]Many thanks for the clarification. It seems to me that Mayhew here is - in general terms - completely rejecting the sort of theory that lay behind Butcher 1990 (and perhaps to some extent Harl 1996) concerning the silver issues of the eastern Roman satellites. I suppose Mayhew has in mind things like what happened to UK silver coin from around 1870. World silver bullion values dropped from about 1 : 16 against gold to about 1 : 35 as I best recall – but it had no effect at all on the value of UK silver coin against gold…….. I have a bunch of problems with understanding silver issues of the eastern Roman satellites – in part I never handled many of these coins – but also I never came across a reference work that gave a clear simple illustrative account of the Eastern "Greek Imperial" silver either. Meanwhile most of what has been written over the last 40 years plus seems professionally mannered, contradictory, and behind pay walls of various sorts. Back in 1990 Howgego was clear that the "Attalid Cistopherus" weighed 3 attic drachms but was worth 4 attic drachms. His evidence inferred from countermarks (!). We also have Harl in 1996 saying the "The Cistopherus" was worth 3 denarii under Augustus, and later 4 denarii under Hadrian. But this not backed up by any ‘primary’ sources at all as far as I can see – and seems to be largely based upon the sort of silver value data Mayhew tends to reject. Part of the confusion for myself began with the way Sear put so much emphasis on the copper coinage back in 1982, at the expense of explaining the silver. Interesting to contrast that with the way Steve Album catalogued the coinage of roughly the same area for the later medieval period in his Checklist (Ilkhans, Timurids, Ottomans). There the many diverse copper issues were virtually ignored in order to focus on explaining the silver. Rob T[/QUOTE]
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