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<p>[QUOTE="TIF, post: 3875234, member: 56859"]I've not seen this particular uncia before and don't recall seeing a pedum on any other pre-imperial Roman coins (other than some of Vibius Pansa). Cool coin!!</p><p><br /></p><p>I wonder how it was determined that the device depicts a pedum?</p><p><br /></p><p>A pedum is a shepherd's crook. They are used to control sheep and other herd animals (by hooking their necks?) and can double as a mild weapon or even as a cane or crutch.</p><p><br /></p><p>A lagobolon is very similar in appearance but seems to be thicker and shorter, with less of a pronounced hook on the end. It's a throwing club used to cudgel hares (λαγωβολον; λαγως = hare, βολονς = throwing/catching).</p><p><br /></p><p>The device on your coin looks more like a curved and knobby club to me, like these:</p><p><br /></p><p><i><img src="https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/illyria-nymphaeumdiobol-jpg.518311/" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></i></p><p><b>ILLYRIA, Apollonia</b></p><p>c. 1st century BCE</p><p>AR 15 mm, 1.25 gm</p><p>Obv: AI-NEA; fires of the Nymphaeum of Apollonia; dotted border</p><p>Rev: AΠOΛΛΩ-NIATAN, lagobolon; dotted border</p><p>Ref: BMC 44; Maier 121</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/antigonosgonatastet-rt-jpg.950597/" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><b>KINGS OF MACEDON, Antigonos II Gonatas</b></p><p>277/6-239 BCE, struck after 270 BCE, Amphipolis mint</p><p>AR tetradrachm, 31mm, 17.06 g</p><p>Obv: head of Pan in center of Macedonian shield, lagobolon over shoulder; shield decorated with stars within crescents</p><p>Rev: BASILEWS ANTIGONOU, Athena Alkidemos walking left, brandishing thunderbolt and shield; helmet left, EMP monogram right</p><p>Ref: SNGCop 1200v, EMP (maybe); R. Martin, "A Third-Century B.C. Hoard from Thessaly at the ANS," ANSMN 26, 536 (same obv. die).</p><p><i>ex Demetrios Armounta Collection</i></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Pan is often portrayed carrying a curved stick or club. Is it a lagobolon or is it a pedum?? Some attributions call it one thing, some another. Maybe there isn't as much difference between the two as a strict definition would suggest. Maybe it's not important. Maybe the engravers didn't know either.</p><p><br /></p><p>Here's an example where Pan's curved stick is called a pedum (not my coin, but not for lack of trying <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie3" alt=":(" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />). It looks rather long and skinny, not knobby like the lagobalons shown above.</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="https://www.sixbid-coin-archive.com/#/en/search?text=Dionysopolis%20pan%20pedum" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.sixbid-coin-archive.com/#/en/search?text=Dionysopolis%20pan%20pedum" rel="nofollow">https://www.sixbid-coin-archive.com/#/en/search?text=Dionysopolis pan pedum</a></p><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://www.cointalk.com/proxy.php?image=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.sixbid.com%2Fimages%2Fauction_images%2F2858%2F2391764l.jpg&hash=b5ef93cf8eb705c651ceda745eb76464" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p>PHRYGIA. Dionysopolis. Pseudo-autonomous. Time of Septimius Severus to Caracalla (193-217). Ae.</p><p>Obv: Draped bust of Dionysus right, wearing ivy wreath.</p><p>Rev: ΔIONVCOΠOΛЄITΩN.</p><p>Pan advancing right, holding grape bunch and pedum.</p><p>SNG Copenhagen 345.</p><p>Very rare</p><p>Weight: 3.51 g.</p><p>Diameter: 18 mm.</p><p><br /></p><p>Here's another depiction of Pan carrying a similar skinny and hooked stick. In the attribution (that I copied <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie10" alt=":oops:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />) it is called a lagobolon. But is it? Is it instead a shepherd's crook or pedum? Hmm.</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/gordianiii-pan-hadrianopolis-rt-jpg.559479/" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><b>THRACE, Hadrianopolis. Gordian III</b></p><p>AE 22 mm, 5.18 gm</p><p>Obv: AVT K M ANT ΓOPΔIANOC; radiate head right</p><p>Rev: AΔPIANOΠOΛЄITΩN; Pan advancing left, holding syrinx and lagobolon</p><p>Ref: Varbanov 3945 corr. (cantharus in place of syrinx). Very rare.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="TIF, post: 3875234, member: 56859"]I've not seen this particular uncia before and don't recall seeing a pedum on any other pre-imperial Roman coins (other than some of Vibius Pansa). Cool coin!! I wonder how it was determined that the device depicts a pedum? A pedum is a shepherd's crook. They are used to control sheep and other herd animals (by hooking their necks?) and can double as a mild weapon or even as a cane or crutch. A lagobolon is very similar in appearance but seems to be thicker and shorter, with less of a pronounced hook on the end. It's a throwing club used to cudgel hares (λαγωβολον; λαγως = hare, βολονς = throwing/catching). The device on your coin looks more like a curved and knobby club to me, like these: [I][IMG]https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/illyria-nymphaeumdiobol-jpg.518311/[/IMG][/I] [B]ILLYRIA, Apollonia[/B] c. 1st century BCE AR 15 mm, 1.25 gm Obv: AI-NEA; fires of the Nymphaeum of Apollonia; dotted border Rev: AΠOΛΛΩ-NIATAN, lagobolon; dotted border Ref: BMC 44; Maier 121 [IMG]https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/antigonosgonatastet-rt-jpg.950597/[/IMG] [B]KINGS OF MACEDON, Antigonos II Gonatas[/B] 277/6-239 BCE, struck after 270 BCE, Amphipolis mint AR tetradrachm, 31mm, 17.06 g Obv: head of Pan in center of Macedonian shield, lagobolon over shoulder; shield decorated with stars within crescents Rev: BASILEWS ANTIGONOU, Athena Alkidemos walking left, brandishing thunderbolt and shield; helmet left, EMP monogram right Ref: SNGCop 1200v, EMP (maybe); R. Martin, "A Third-Century B.C. Hoard from Thessaly at the ANS," ANSMN 26, 536 (same obv. die). [I]ex Demetrios Armounta Collection[/I] Pan is often portrayed carrying a curved stick or club. Is it a lagobolon or is it a pedum?? Some attributions call it one thing, some another. Maybe there isn't as much difference between the two as a strict definition would suggest. Maybe it's not important. Maybe the engravers didn't know either. Here's an example where Pan's curved stick is called a pedum (not my coin, but not for lack of trying :(). It looks rather long and skinny, not knobby like the lagobalons shown above. [URL='https://www.sixbid-coin-archive.com/#/en/search?text=Dionysopolis%20pan%20pedum']https://www.sixbid-coin-archive.com/#/en/search?text=Dionysopolis pan pedum[/URL] [IMG]https://www.cointalk.com/proxy.php?image=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.sixbid.com%2Fimages%2Fauction_images%2F2858%2F2391764l.jpg&hash=b5ef93cf8eb705c651ceda745eb76464[/IMG] PHRYGIA. Dionysopolis. Pseudo-autonomous. Time of Septimius Severus to Caracalla (193-217). Ae. Obv: Draped bust of Dionysus right, wearing ivy wreath. Rev: ΔIONVCOΠOΛЄITΩN. Pan advancing right, holding grape bunch and pedum. SNG Copenhagen 345. Very rare Weight: 3.51 g. Diameter: 18 mm. Here's another depiction of Pan carrying a similar skinny and hooked stick. In the attribution (that I copied :oops:) it is called a lagobolon. But is it? Is it instead a shepherd's crook or pedum? Hmm. [IMG]https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/gordianiii-pan-hadrianopolis-rt-jpg.559479/[/IMG] [B]THRACE, Hadrianopolis. Gordian III[/B] AE 22 mm, 5.18 gm Obv: AVT K M ANT ΓOPΔIANOC; radiate head right Rev: AΔPIANOΠOΛЄITΩN; Pan advancing left, holding syrinx and lagobolon Ref: Varbanov 3945 corr. (cantharus in place of syrinx). Very rare.[/QUOTE]
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