Can't find this coin...

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by TheKingNerd, Jul 25, 2017.

  1. spirityoda

    spirityoda Coin Junky

    that Ebay link I just posted said theirs was a replica. hmmmm. @Siberian Man we need your help on the OP coin. thanks.
     
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  3. TheKingNerd

    TheKingNerd Member

    well the ebay coin was a little different anyway
    maybe a weird mistake in the replica?
     
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  4. spirityoda

    spirityoda Coin Junky

    who knows ? calling @Siberian Man hello ? lol he could shed some light on your coin.
     
  5. spirityoda

    spirityoda Coin Junky

    great find by the way. nice early date too.
     
  6. Noah Finney

    Noah Finney Well-Known Member

    does you token feal heavy or light??
     
  7. spirityoda

    spirityoda Coin Junky

    it is a coin not a token and it should weigh 4 grams.
     
  8. TheKingNerd

    TheKingNerd Member

    i don't have a scale
    but i'd guess considerably more than 4 grams
    it's weirdly bulged out in the middle on both sides
     
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  9. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Yes there is a one Kopeck of Elizabeth from 1755, but this is NOT it. On the real 1755 one Kopeck coins the design was the same on both sides, an EP monogram on an eagle with a cloud background. The mintmark at the bottom on one side and the date on the other side. And the weight was 20.5 grams, or a little less than that of an Ike dollar. I can't find that reverse style used anywhere in the Russian series of that era, and that bust of Elizabeth doesn't appear on coins smaller than 1/4 ruble.

    This looks like a fantasy piece to me.
     
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  10. TheKingNerd

    TheKingNerd Member

    hmmmm
    well i found the reverse style on several different russian coins... but not with that bust
    and idk anything about russian coins
    if ur right, bummer
    but what about the ebay one?
     
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  11. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    The one he said was a replica...it's a replica. Replicas don't have to be of a real coin.
     
  12. spirityoda

    spirityoda Coin Junky

    Conder101 is correct. I think the real Kopek has the same design on the both sides. and it's not the Elizabeth side either.
     
  13. TheKingNerd

    TheKingNerd Member

    well what would it be a replica of then lol
     
  14. spirityoda

    spirityoda Coin Junky

    I am guessing a fantasy piece.
     
  15. spirityoda

    spirityoda Coin Junky

  16. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    Point well taken, I should have said a fantasy piece.
     
  17. muhfff

    muhfff Well-Known Member

    It is definitely bad copy of... something (I don't even konw, how to call it). It looks like "mule" of rouble and kopek.

    1755 kopek should look very similar to that:
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rare-Russia...088061?hash=item3d4239c7fd:g:OlUAAOSwuxFY0cwJ

    And rouble from that era is roughly something like that (the portrait type for 1755 would be slightly different, but you get the idea of engraving quality and style):
    1745SPB_1R_A.JPG
     
  18. TheKingNerd

    TheKingNerd Member

    dang
    so it's not worth anything?
     
  19. spirityoda

    spirityoda Coin Junky

    it also looks like it is made of bronze making it look brassy and not like made of copper. it is worth something to the right person just not a lot of money.
     
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  20. ACoinJob

    ACoinJob There are still some out there to be had.

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  21. ACoinJob

    ACoinJob There are still some out there to be had.

    Perhaps it was meant to deceive the normal person, a magicians coin, but the gold weight and composition. Get it weighed in grams, and acid tested for gold content.
     
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