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Message:: [QUOTE="Bill in Burl, post: 2083453, member: 23692"]I am not a 5 cent collector.  Do an archive search on this or the PCGS site (foreign coins) and there are 2 quick ID methods for determination.  One way is to compare the space(distance) between the 2 and the leaf with that of the space between the 3 & 2.  The other is to take a 3X5 card and place it so that it essentaially draws a line between the tip of the right leaf and the top of the 2.   Then you see where that line is in relation to the 1 in the date (where that line meets the 1 or how it misses it). Unfortunately, I forget what either of those 2 tests show.  In other words, if the spacings are equal in the first test or tip/1/tip in the second test; does it mean that it's a "near 2"?  An archive hunt will tell you without looking at the S and the rim.  I just need to take better notes or start collecting 5 cents instead of large cents. OK, I found the thread on the CCF site:  <a href="http://www.coincommunity.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=175170" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.coincommunity.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=175170" rel="nofollow">http://www.coincommunity.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=175170</a> I prefer Zonad's method of the spacings, where the 2-leaf spacing is nearly twice that of the 3-2 spacing and that "2 to 1" spacing difference shows a "far 2" with the "far" meaning "far from the leaf, not far from the 3".[/QUOTE]