Canadian Dollar Error

yes they are

 

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lol lol i know it's weird i sent you a PM! lol

 

I didn't receive the pm.

 

Like I said in the pm I wish you had closer pictures because both pictures look like the details are raised not one of them incuse. The light hits the rim and the details just wrong. Closer pictures of course would help. Maybe your mom has a good camera. I hope this information helps you in evaluating this coin.

 

Yes I know a photographer, just got to get ahold of her she could prob help, if i find anything out i will post. to be continued......

 

From what I see it is definitely real! It is a full brockage piece and yes it is rather valuable.

What happened is the previous coin was struck but failed to edject from the press. The next planchet was fed in on top of the previously struck coin (The rev die was the hammer die in the press so the struck coin in the coining chamber was reverse up.) When the press cycled again the planchet of this coin was struck between the raised reverse of the coin in the chamber and the incuse reverse in the hammer die. Since the planchet was on top of the previous coin it was not down in the collar and so the reeded edge was not impressed into the coin.

There you have it, a coin with the same design on both sides, one raised, one incuse, and a plain edge.

Photos of incuse images can be tricky. The eye isn't used to seeing things that way and tries to make "corrections". But a close examination of the lighting highlights does demonstrate that it is incuse.

First note that both images are lit from the same direction. They are lit from below and this can be seen by the same shadowed area at the top of each image. Now the best place to look is the bottom leg of the L's in DOLLAR. In the first image the bottom leg is raised like a hill across a field. The side closest to the light sourse is lit and the far side is in shadow. This is exactly what the first image shows. Now in the second image the bottom leg is like a ditch running across that field. The side closest o the light is now in shadow and the far side of the ditch is well lit. Once again this matches the second image. Once you see this you can start extending it to other features on the coin and you will see that features that should be raised are well lit on the bottom edge in the first picture, but in shadow in the second with the far edge of that feature being well lit. Since the coin is lit from the 6:00 position this works best along that axis. Features at 9:00 and 3:00 do not show it as well

 

You make some great points, Conder. This may well be genuine! :bigeyes:

 

Those were my thoughts as well Conder. I would love to see a better pic before calling it %100... but I'm pretty sure it is a brockage as well.

 

I will definetly try and get some better pics to show....thanks for all the great input.

 

Ok i tried to scan at an angle so the light would reflect differently first scan is the non incuse side 2nd scan is the incuse side, don't know if it made much of a difference.....will get better shots with a camera mine just sucks

 

daisy
A strong consideration, since (if real) that coin would be very valuable, get it certified (graded & encased) by a third party grading service.
In that way, in the event that you or Mom decide to sell it you would get the best price for your coin.
If not certified, then the buyer would lower his offer, considering that there was a question (in his mind) that it is genuine.
Good luck.

 

I agree !

 

Good points Treashunt!

 

Yes, grading and authentication would be crucial if you want to sell this piece. You'd be lucky to get half the value of it if it's not authenticated by a reputable service.

 

If were MS I would have it graded for sure

 

Does anyone know of a reputible service or person in Canda, preferabley in Alberta. I would like to get it graded and authenticated for my mom ....it would totally be up to her if she wanted to sell though it's her find! lol lol She's had it for 33 years so don't know if she would she hasn't wexpressed any intrest in doing so, I think she just wants to find out what she can about it, And keep it all tucked away...my precious! lol

 

That looks like a picture of jazec, zectar.

 

ICGS is located in Canada, but I don't know if they do errors. There really aren't that many options without sending it to the U.S.

P.S., I'll bet Gollum was a coin collector.

 

I know you guys have alot of good stuff we don't! But thanks for the tip.
I may have to wait until I get down to the US to get it done there.

 

If your going to send it to a USA Anacs is cheap or Icg