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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;LostDutchman, post: 621729, member: 16994&quot;]I do, not very many at all. I know graders and finalizers with both NGC and PCGS personally. I know the experts that they ask when they are unsure about an error. I have the utmost trust and respect for these people and their considerable skills. You have to get up really really really early in the morning to get past these folks. </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>They do from time to time, there is proof of it in the arrest records of those convicted.&nbsp; </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>I do know that there are counterfeiters of errors out there... the coin in question is not one of them. I saw this coin in person more then 10 years ago. This was before the wave of Chinese counterfeits. Before this time counterfiet errors this dramatic were almost nonexistent. </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><br /></p><p>Lets see here, a high pressure press, believably cut dies, the planchets just to name a few things</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>What system would that be?? </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Not the guys I know...[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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