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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Lehigh96, post: 3234971, member: 15309&quot;]Prove it!&nbsp; Show us an untoned coin, then show the exact same coin with market acceptable rainbow toning the next day.&nbsp; I have offered this challenge to hundreds of people over the years.&nbsp; To date, I am undefeated!</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>That also isn&#039;t true.&nbsp; What you are talking about is Type 1 Artificial Toning in which deep toning is used to hide surface flaws.&nbsp; This practice is typically reserved for expensive coins where a bump in grade means a large bump in price.&nbsp; What we are talking about for the purposes of this thread is Type 2 Artificial Toning where the attractive nature of the toning improves the eye appeal of the coin and creates a price premium.&nbsp; In that arena, most of the coins are inexpensive mint state common date coins with very little numismatic premium over their intrinsic value.&nbsp; And most of the time, the coin doctor will chose a fully lustrous coin.&nbsp; For example:</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://i.imgur.com/RA6GPNU.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>It is worth mentioning that I didn&#039;t not create these terms:&nbsp; Type 1 &amp; Type 2 AT.&nbsp; They were created and taught by Bob Campbell (not [USER=19094]@robec[/USER]), who was the ANA President for a while.&nbsp; They actually made a video about artificial toning about 20 years ago.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Again, Prove it!&nbsp; And are you claiming the coin shown above is NT simply because it is lustrous?</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Toning is a fact of life, most original coins that are not dipped are going to be toned in some fashion.&nbsp; You can&#039;t simply ignore toning or colors, it is part of the hobby, and a very important part to many of us.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>No, we are judging the coin based on its appearance.&nbsp; That appearance will have indicators of either AT/QT or NT/MA.&nbsp; It has nothing to do whether I like the coin or not.&nbsp; My example of the improper storage was simply to show that &quot;intent&quot; can&#039;t be used in the evaluation of the authenticity of the toning.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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