Can we afford to go back to the gold standard?

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  1. webstandardcss

    webstandardcss New Member

    In discussion of a gold standard as the basis of the U.S. dollar, it has been estimated that all the gold mined in the history of the world by the end of 2009 totaled is 165,000 tonnes. At a price of 1000.00 per oz one ton of gold or 32150.75 troy ounces, has a value of approximately $32.15 million. The total value of all gold ever mined in the history of the world would barely exceed $5 trillion at that valuation.

    The officially admitted national debt of the United States as of August 2010 was 13.3 trillion dollars, with unofficial estimates by private economist placing the the actual deficit - including non-budgetary items like unfunded liabilities of Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security and the defense budget - at $202 trillion. Source: http://www.eutimes.net/2010/08/official-us-deficit-put-at-staggering-202-trillion/

    In an earlier letter to 'The Paper' (June 25, 2010), a letter signed by Democrat Congressmen Gary Akerman and Mike McMahon was quoted, that placed the total US private derivatives business of large US based financial institutions at 600 trillion dollars, this is in addition to whatever valuations can be placed upon the total public debts outstanding of the United States as previously mentioned here - with those numbers being in the gazillions of gazillions of dollars, I ask the readers;

    Can we afford to go back to a gold standard for the infamous "Greenback" as some are suggesting?

    Because if we go to a gold backed dollar with bank reserve requirements based on the total ounces of gold on hand, then we are going to have a very meager, miserly, mean economic existence - you can bet your last bottom dollar, on that...
     
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  3. renu

    renu New Member

    No mate, we cant do this. Economy always is not based on the standard of gold, but the planning commission also takes other factors such balancing inflation rates, usually that is 4 percent in many countries. The balancing inflation rates can absorb smaller inflations that exists sometimes.
     
  4. Ginger1

    Ginger1 Member

    What also could be mentioned is that the US govt uses creative book keeping so the numbers look better than they are.
     
  5. renu

    renu New Member

    What you are exactly trying to point out here about creative book keeping.
     
  6. serendipitous

    serendipitous New Member

    We would love to but its just not possible, I mean even if the 20 percent of the people in the Us economy go to US State bank and ask for gold for in place of their money, cash which is , they wont be able to provide that you know, our money is not gold backed, thats the reason why we face inflation in the economy.
     
  7. Demon_Skeith

    Demon_Skeith New Member

    I doubt it would help our financial situation to go back to gold. may worsen it or screw us if we did.
     
  8. serendipitous

    serendipitous New Member

    hmmmm it depends on the world scenario you cant say that it might worsen your situation
     
  9. DarkDonnie

    DarkDonnie New Member

    I think we possibly could. Alot of other contrys still use it!
     
  10. Peter T Davis

    Peter T Davis Hammer at the Ready Moderator

    It's really the thieves on Wall Street who messed up the economy, and damn the government for giving them trillions in hand outs because they are "Too Big To Fail" (grrrrr). The Gold Standard would have prevented all of that. Sure you don't get the explosive growth with the Gold Standard, but it isn't the middle class who benefits from explosive growth anyway, it's Wall Street, and that is why they oppose the Gold Standard.
     
  11. thiefraccoon

    thiefraccoon New Member

    I know some countries still do, but it's impossible for US.
    We have way too much gold in circulation.
    As much as it will be nice to have the gold standard back...
    I guess we're stuck with slow but steady inflation.
     
  12. Peter T Davis

    Peter T Davis Hammer at the Ready Moderator

    Oh, you never know. Something could happen, something bigger than the earthquake in Japan for example. I could imagine a number of SHTF scenarios where a collapsing economy make it a great idea to go back to the standard.
     
  13. BrendanM

    BrendanM New Member

    Yeah some countys still do it, though i can't see us doing it but its a thought.
     
  14. johandr

    johandr New Member

    yeah i doubt it...

    i hope we can though!
     
  15. Promo

    Promo New Member

    It was a good thing we got off the gold standard because it helped with the recovery from the Depression since this affected three economic variables. These three variables would be exports, investment and real wages.

    Exports: Going off gold made domestic output cheaper abroad and raised exports.

    Investment: Going off gold made it more profitable to invest. Countries that had more depreciated exchange rates allowed investment to recover more quickly.

    Real wages: Going off gold raised inflation or price levels. Since nominal wages were "sticky" this led to lower real wages and less unemployment or more hiring since labor was now less expensive. This employment regenerated demand and made for recovery.

    We also had double-edged sword with the Brenton Woods system where other countries were relying on the U.S. Dollar.
     
  16. garfiun1

    garfiun1 New Member

    Im not from the us but the uk and would love to see the current currency replaced for gold.
     
  17. AlexanderKen1993

    AlexanderKen1993 New Member

  18. CarpeNemo

    CarpeNemo New Member

    I'm not sure. On one hand I rather like the idea of the dollar having actual value again, but that also means that visible cost for everything drops, which makes it even more valuable which means pay-cuts are likely and that'll throw people into a panic. Even if at the end of the day they're getting the same bang for their buck, people don't like it at all when their wages get cut.

    It would also mean that either the gold-to-dollar ratio would have to be low on the gold side and high on the dollar side. The Fed would have to stop printing as much money (...good thing.) and maybe the inflation will stop. But...I don't know. I'm not well versed in currency.
     
  19. judgea

    judgea New Member

    If the "slow and steady inflation" becomes hyperinflation, the masses will be begging for a return to the gold standard.
     
  20. FutureEconomist

    FutureEconomist New Member

    If it gets to a place where hyperinflation becomes that much of a problem then it probably would be too late to experience the benefits of the gold standard (not until after things have stabilised). Having a currency that's actually worth something on the market is valuable, but just because you're on the gold standard that doesn't mean your currency can't collapse. Remember what happened in Zimbabwe.

    As for getting back to the standard, the sooner the better I say. I'm not sure if the US could afford it without making some spending cuts and putting an end to the Federal Reserve's money printing abilities, but since those are all things that need to happen anyway...The increased confidence investors would have in the economy as a result of the decision could go a long way.
     
  21. ProClerk

    ProClerk New Member

    Yeah I totally agree that it depends on world's scenario!
     
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