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<p>[QUOTE="Julius Germanicus, post: 3862852, member: 80783"]I think this here shoud proove that the OP coin´s obverse die was indeed in the hands of the Goths and was used to produce and inspire a whole series of semi-barbaric designs:</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1021852[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>The obverse of this coin (found in the western Ukraine again and with traces of the attachment of a loop) was once again obviously struck with the OP coin´s obverse die, but is coupled with yet another reverse type, one which is neither official (like the OP type), nor could (theoretically) be an unrecorded official variety (like the COS III coins I discussed above), but one that is totally unknown on official Aurei of the Tetrarchy.</p><p>Why on earth would only one single obverse die of the several used for the official type (see coin Nr.3 above) be used to strike coins with other reverses, exclusively of types unknown on official coins, which would be exclusively found in graves of the gothic Chernyakov culture?</p><p><br /></p><p>The SAECURITAS SAECVLI reverse type is taken from Aurei of Probus, another Emperor whose gold coin designs were frequently copied by the Goths. Here is a specimen from the Cyzicvs mint:</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1021857[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>I think the history of this barbarian coinage has to be rewritten to some extent. </p><p><br /></p><p>The known case of the dies from Alexandria Troas was not a singular event.</p><p><br /></p><p>Some popular designs from the dawn of Germanic coinage were not just merely inspired by roman designs, but at first directly struck from official Roman dies.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Julius Germanicus, post: 3862852, member: 80783"]I think this here shoud proove that the OP coin´s obverse die was indeed in the hands of the Goths and was used to produce and inspire a whole series of semi-barbaric designs: [ATTACH=full]1021852[/ATTACH] The obverse of this coin (found in the western Ukraine again and with traces of the attachment of a loop) was once again obviously struck with the OP coin´s obverse die, but is coupled with yet another reverse type, one which is neither official (like the OP type), nor could (theoretically) be an unrecorded official variety (like the COS III coins I discussed above), but one that is totally unknown on official Aurei of the Tetrarchy. Why on earth would only one single obverse die of the several used for the official type (see coin Nr.3 above) be used to strike coins with other reverses, exclusively of types unknown on official coins, which would be exclusively found in graves of the gothic Chernyakov culture? The SAECURITAS SAECVLI reverse type is taken from Aurei of Probus, another Emperor whose gold coin designs were frequently copied by the Goths. Here is a specimen from the Cyzicvs mint: [ATTACH=full]1021857[/ATTACH] I think the history of this barbarian coinage has to be rewritten to some extent. The known case of the dies from Alexandria Troas was not a singular event. Some popular designs from the dawn of Germanic coinage were not just merely inspired by roman designs, but at first directly struck from official Roman dies.[/QUOTE]
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