Can this be real?

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  1. techwriter

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  3. rte

    rte Well-Known Member

    If it was the best known, it would be graded.

    Hard pass, seller even wants 50 bucks for shipping.
  4. Kentucky

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  5. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Variety Collector

    Not by those images....yes a high quality ..graded by a TPG May bring moon money....those photos and raw no thanks....reason being 1 could be a fake from China, two if you had a coin that nice why isnt it graded? The reason it wont grade.
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  6. LakeEffect

    LakeEffect Average Circulated Supporter

    Looks sketchy, and the seller has feedback of 1.
    Agree that a coin that nice would be slabbed.
  7. furham

    furham Good Ole Boy

    No returns.
  8. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    Luster is everything with coins like this. I don’t see any.
  9. John Burgess

    John Burgess Well-Known Member

    I think it's getting either "cleaned" or "questionable color" possibly both. The strike is detailed and looks nice, the fields are ROUGH.

    He's got it priced so high though I Don't think there will be any confusion over it. anyone that has $20k to blow on it willy nilly likely deserves to get ripped off if they look at that and think "gee, that's a good deal!"

    If he priced it around $1000-$1500 range I'd be concerned for someone though lol.
  10. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

    It’s real, but the price is too high, even if you take off a couple zeroes.
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  11. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Coin is real, images are not good, actual grade impossible to determine, if I was buying from those image I would not pay any more than AU money at best. Seller is dreaming or casting for a sucker. Remember you can ASK any price you wish when selling. An asking price doesn't mean anything.
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  12. Mainebill

    Mainebill Wild Bill

    Appears to be a cleaned au. Wouldn’t buy it for a fraction of the price
  13. 1865King

    1865King Active Member

    Like most would say and have said if it was that nice why isn't graded? I wouldn't touch it. If you really want a high grade Indian then buy one from one of the big auction houses or well known dealer. And even then not unless it has been certified by either NGC or PCGS.
  14. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    Here is the 1861 cent from my "Civil War era cent collection"." It is a PCGS MS-64 with an Eagle Eye sticker.

    1861 Cent O.jpg 1861 Cent R.jpg
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  15. techwriter

    techwriter Supporter! Supporter

    And I would wager it cost less than $20,000. LOL
  16. Jim Dale

    Jim Dale Well-Known Member

    WOW! I fell in love with your 1861 IHC. Most of my IHC are AG-F-XF. Thanks for showing us your IHC.
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  17. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    I'm still laughing
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