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<p>[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 2170572, member: 112"]My comments that you quoted were made as a joke, for the most part anyway. But the comments to which I responded were not a joke, and of course neither are yours. And I in no way denigrate variety/error collectors, I was just poking fun.</p><p><br /></p><p>Form a serious point of view, I don't disagree with your comments. They're all true. The point is in the old days dies were hubbed twice, that is what allowed doubled dies to be created when there was a misalignment between the 2 hubbings. </p><p><br /></p><p>But in recent years the mint changed things. They didn't like double dies and they didn't want to produce doubled die coins. So they instituted the single hubbing process where all dies were only hubbed once. The premise was that single hubbing there should no longer ever be any doubled dies, that there couldn't be. Thus the problem would be solved.</p><p><br /></p><p>But because even the single hubbing process can, not necessarily will but might, involve a minor slippage or bump when the hub and die come together and/or separate, there can still be very tiny, usually microscopic, changes in the design of the die, which are then transferred to the coins. </p><p><br /></p><p>But the nature of this bump or slippage is no different than what occurs when a perfectly normal die strikes a coin and there is a slippage or bump resulting in what we all know as mechanical doubling. And of course mechanical doubling is of no significance at all. So what passes for modern doubled dies cannot be doubled dies because of their mechanical nature. Those are the facts.</p><p><br /></p><p>In other words, it's many error and variety collectors reaching, stretching reality, so that they can still collect new examples of what they want to call doubled die coins. </p><p><br /></p><p>Now if that's what pushes their buttons, OK, they can collect what they like. But to many people what they are doing is nothing more than a misuse of terminology, applying different and new definitions to terms to suit their own needs.</p><p><br /></p><p>Let the wars begin <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie8" alt=":D" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 2170572, member: 112"]My comments that you quoted were made as a joke, for the most part anyway. But the comments to which I responded were not a joke, and of course neither are yours. And I in no way denigrate variety/error collectors, I was just poking fun. Form a serious point of view, I don't disagree with your comments. They're all true. The point is in the old days dies were hubbed twice, that is what allowed doubled dies to be created when there was a misalignment between the 2 hubbings. But in recent years the mint changed things. They didn't like double dies and they didn't want to produce doubled die coins. So they instituted the single hubbing process where all dies were only hubbed once. The premise was that single hubbing there should no longer ever be any doubled dies, that there couldn't be. Thus the problem would be solved. But because even the single hubbing process can, not necessarily will but might, involve a minor slippage or bump when the hub and die come together and/or separate, there can still be very tiny, usually microscopic, changes in the design of the die, which are then transferred to the coins. But the nature of this bump or slippage is no different than what occurs when a perfectly normal die strikes a coin and there is a slippage or bump resulting in what we all know as mechanical doubling. And of course mechanical doubling is of no significance at all. So what passes for modern doubled dies cannot be doubled dies because of their mechanical nature. Those are the facts. In other words, it's many error and variety collectors reaching, stretching reality, so that they can still collect new examples of what they want to call doubled die coins. Now if that's what pushes their buttons, OK, they can collect what they like. But to many people what they are doing is nothing more than a misuse of terminology, applying different and new definitions to terms to suit their own needs. Let the wars begin :D[/QUOTE]
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